alternatives in land use

[cory]

@FireFighterZero Hey Jimbo, you out there?

Don't Till On Me - Patagonia Stories

A soil junkie explains no-till practices for regenerative agriculture. Del Ficke is a soil junkie. “It’s like a drug the first time you feel real good

www.patagonia.com

 

[Nutball]

Just another angle of how corrupt the modern world has become. No need to buy this and that for success. Nature knows how to take care of itself. The farmers just keep it organized. Mankind doesn't have to take absolute control of everything, which just makes mankind a slave to their own designs.

 

[FireFighterZero]

@FireFighterZero Hey Jimbo, you out there?

Don't Till On Me - Patagonia Stories

A soil junkie explains no-till practices for regenerative agriculture. Del Ficke is a soil junkie. “It’s like a drug the first time you feel real good

www.patagonia.com

I been doing that shit for years.

Hahaha!

 

[cory]

Good on ya, mate!

 

[FireFighterZero]

As soon as it rains again.....

 

[Steve Mack]

Local guy got the Farmer of the year Award.

Michael Taylor named 2022 Australian Farmer of the Year

SIXTH-generation wool grower Michael Taylor, from Kentucky, New South Wales, is the outstanding recipient of the 2022 Australian Farmer of the Year Award.

www.farmingahead.com.au

Michael has built a reputation around his future-focused approach to farming and his management of 4000 sheep, production of sustainable superfine Merino wool, mixed Angus cattle herd, timber mill and farm stay accommodation makes him an incredibly diversified primary producer.


Through tree planting and rotational grazing, Michael has increased stocking capacity, lambing percentages, reduced degradation, and sequestered carbon for the future.

 

[Steve Mack]

We had one of the worst droughts ever when this was filmed, it broke a couple of years ago. Now too much rain in a lot of places, floods all the way to Tasmania. Nice here now though and too high for floods.

Kentucky was cleared of lots of trees, some for sheep and a lot for ex servicemen after WW2 for fruit orchard blocks. That didn't work so mainly sheep and cattle now.

Used to be mainly Stringy Bark forest here before a lot were cleared, and a lot lost in the tree dieback in the late 70's. Dieback research project - https://www.une.edu.au/connect/news/2021/03/searching-for-answers-to-millions-of-tree-deaths

Worth watching if you have 12 minutes, they've planted about 230,000 trees.

 

[cory]

"This is the 3rd drought I've been through . Having the trees is just amazing for your mental health"

Good vid.

 

[cory]

 

[cory]

 

[cory]

 

[cory]

Good stuff, and dung beetles...where are you @FireFighterZero ??

 

[FireFighterZero]

That's cool. I will watch that later and ask the wife.

We have some cover crops to seed this year.

An outfit called the Climate Beneficial Fiber Project wants to throw bucket loads of cash at us to plant them and such.

 

[Kaveman]

That's cool. I will watch that later and ask the wife.

We have some cover crops to seed this year.

An outfit called the Climate Beneficial Fiber Project wants to throw bucket loads of cash at us to plant them and such.

Sheep need sheared, fleece em!

 

[cory]

@FireFighterZero et al

Can Dirt Clean the Climate?

An Australian start-up is hoping fungi can pull carbon dioxide from the air and stash it underground. It’s one of several ventures trying to deploy the superpowers of soil to slow global warming.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Nutball]

I thought fungus releases co2 and inhales o2.

 

[CurSedVoyce]

How about we plant some trees and stop cutting them down for solar arrays. I bet that might be a good thing too.

 

[Burnham]

With all the billions of square meters of rooftops and parking lots in the world, there should be no valid reason to put voltaic panels anywhere else.

 

[CurSedVoyce]

Plus, trees cool the area, panels emit heat from that they absorb. So yeah, you get shade, but...

 

[Burnham]

Another point, following on Stephen's thoughts...panels add no more heat than parking lots contribute to their environment...I'd make a substantial wager it's quite a bit less.

Elevated panels cannot hold heat like an asphalt surface on the ground can, in my mind. Bound to cool off quicker as evening and night rolls around. A suburban or urban location should prove cooler overall, if panels were located over parking lots...or even roads.

It's stupid to convert open desert, or agricultural fields, or forested land to solar farms...plain and simple.

 

[CurSedVoyce]

I would argue it actually adds reflective and radiant heat to thenparking lot in general. Pavement holds the heat, even in the shade. Not all the pavement is shaded. Yes the panels will cool faster at night. Pavement will still be quite warm for a long time. So I would wager, more heat comes off a parking lot with solar panels than if shaded by trees during the day. Just my guesstimate

 

[Burnham]

Fair point, and absolutely accurate.... but by my observations, having traveled much of this country over the last...well, let's be kind and just say "a long time "...fewer parking lots have significant tree shade than do not.

For sure, I'd NEVER advocate cutting down trees in favor of solar panels. Just saying that overall we'd be much better off if we put up overhead solar panel structures on parking lots that are not shaded by trees.

I surely do not know, but I'd be surprised if there were more lots shaded by trees than those not shaded enough to count for much.

I'm quite sure we are on the exact same page on this subject, Stephen .

 

[Kaveman]

The urban heat island effect says that you're dead right Stephan. If the government wants solar farms, they shouldn't shade new land.

Both of you are likely correct. What I'm curious about is if we should count parking buildings. Those park a lot of cars under roof. Still no reason not to use PV cells above them. Perhaps we could also at least partially cover the south facing wall of tall buildings as well.

 

[Mick!]

The trouble with parking lots that use trees as shade is that whatever tree they select brings issues, be they roots causing unevenness or cones or honeydew.

Supermarkets and major retail parks are putting up solar over their parking here. Government subsidused no doubt.

 

[CurSedVoyce]

I agree that parking lots are a good place for solar. I personally love when I see a lot surrounded on the edges by good thriviing tress and balanced with the panels on the interior. Interior lot trees do, yes, eventually create root damage if they are not cycled in RR. And are often butchered to shit so there is almost no shade. Man kind has a tendency to have extreme opposite solutions instead of balance.