54" and full comp?

[MasterBlaster]

Until that Zen runs into the third or fourth chain and you've found out somebody just 'borrowed you're last box of files.

 

[woodworkingboy]

Jay, are there many talented climbers in Japan?

Chris, I only know of one full time climber in the country, and have worked with him once. I would say that he is talented, and pretty much entirely self taught. He works for a big outfit, but freelances now and then. Just very rare opportunities to learn climbing here, so talent rarely can get developed.

 

[Al Smith]

Until that Zen runs into the third or fourth chain and you've found out somebody just 'borrowed you're last box of files.

--or the Zen goes cross eyed from staring at too many cutters ---

 

[Burnham]

That Zen thing gets a little hard to keep going when your hand and wrist and forearms start cramping up .

 

[Al Smith]

I got to thinking about all this .My favorite way to file is sit on a 5 gallon bucket behind my truck .Put the bar up on the tail gate which has plastic on it and it protects the truck and the chain . The saw bar is at a higher level and angled up from the engine with it between my legs and I go left right left over the bar .Slick as a whistle . Now just how in the world would do that with a 60" bar ? You'd have to have an assistant holding the damned bar up or a crane .

 

[sotc]

My favorite way to file is with a punch and rivit spinner

 

[Tucker943]

I only enjoy filing when my file slips like a banana peel across the tooth and I run my index finger across the chain and start gushing blood. Y'all know exactly what Im talking about.

 

[woodworkingboy]

Cut myself a few times, and it always makes me feel dumb.

 

[SkwerI]

Chris, I like your style.

 

[sotc]

Stinking bleeder!

 

[woodworkingboy]

Hemophiliacs need not apply.

 

[flushcut]

My favorite way to file is with a punch and rivit spinner

Ha!
I usually wear gloves when filing.

 

[Old Monkey]

Do you guys ever wonder how many chains you've sharpened? I started sharpening saws in 1989 and think its got to be up in the thousands of times by now.

 

[Al Smith]

I didn't even know you could file a chain until maybe '71-72 .Those old farmers usually took them to the saw shop which in reality was just the local IH or John Deere dealer .Sold lawn mowers too .

 

[Marc-Antoine]

The biggest bar I work with (not really often) is a 44" on a 3120 XP. The chain is full comp. Never tried a skip chain.
I have only one half skip chain. But what is funny, that's a 3/8" hobby for a 16" bar !:what:
It's on a chinese chainsaw Go-On. My dad gave it to me "just in case".:roll:

 

[Bodean]

Do you think that a 54" bar and full comp is to much on a 3120? I know chip clearance will be an issue but it will be used for stumping mostly.

I haven't read more than this of this thread, but Holy Smokes!
Full comp is a lot of filing. In my opinion the 3120 can bog out, especially on stumps.
You're gonna find all sorts of schwag in stumps.

I like semi skip. We use 88's and 3120's.

Full comp on nothing more than a 044 with a 24" bar, maybe.
In my little opinion.

 

[Al Smith]

You can bog about anything if you put enough load on it .It doesn't make any difference if it's a mini Mac or an 084 . Damned big stump will put the test on the best of them .

 

[cory]

Ah, the Treehouse! Great thread; I hit metal with my 42" bar/full comp chain and need to replace the chain now as it has no life left in it. Willard pointed out that in a residential setting where foreign objects may likely be encountered, full comp is the better choice cuz it will be easier to file because each tooth will take a smaller hit as there are more teeth to share the load. That makes sense, but other folks still prefer semi or full skip. How is semi on a 24" bar? I've always run full on my Husky 24" bars, but if semi is good on a 24" and it might be good on the 42" bar despite Willards argument, maybe I'll try a roll of semi. I need to buy 100' right away so now would be a good time to enact a change. I work residentially full time.

What say you, Housers?

 

[Burnham]

For what it's worth...Doug Dent has been running simi-skip on his custom cut sawyer crew saws for the last 5-6 years, after decades of full skip use. He reports real good wear, cutting speed, and not so much of a trade-off in sharpening time for field touch-ups as one might expect. Of course, he has a nice Silvey grinder in his shop for most sharpening tasks.

Better add this note...full chisel, no other even considered.

Also fwiw...not many things do I decide to not follow Doug's advice on, but in this I have strayed . I am a full skip man, 'til the end. My single saving grace may be that I am all the way a full chisel man, too .

 

[cory]

Well I'm not gonna go full chisel. Matter of fact, B, does anybody east of the Mississippi use full chisel?

 

[MasterBlaster]

24" and under, I'd stick with full comp.

 

[cory]

I could stick with the full for my 24"ers and buy a loop of semi for the 42". But I feel weird buying a loop insteada making my own, ha. But can't buy a roll of semi cuz this last 42" chain lasted me probably 7 years, only using like 2x/ year.

 

[Burnham]

I reckon what some say, that PNW softwoods are the best match for long bars running full skip, might be so. I have but a thimble full of experience with anything else.

I don't think economics of loop vs. spin your own matters much when you use a chain no more than that, Cory.

 

[cory]

Very good point, B.

 

[SkwerI]

Spring for a loop of skip (if you can find it locally) and try it out. My last three rolls have been skip. I still have full comp on my 880 because it is .404 gauge and I cannot buy skip by the loop. I much prefer using the Husky 395 with skip.