X Rigging Rings, thoughts

[Pelorus]

Hard trek to find a spot to pee. Poor pooch.

It's a dog's life just rambling about the backyard as and when it chooses to.
Used to bring her inside when it was really cold out, and after 5 minutes or so, she would be pawing the door wanting to go out again. That gets old, quick.

 

[August Hunicke]

Cute dawgs.
Great vid Al.
Really great song/personalities


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[SouthSoundTree-]

Note that is a tree-dog-house.

One day I spotted Rupert on a chip pile looking in the kitchen window at me.



Sean

 

[Mick!]

The X-man is on instagram saying there's some sort of article in a US magazine dissing the X-rings. Getting pretty heated.

Anyone know the article/magazine?

 

[Grendel]

http://tcia.org/TCI-publications/tci-magazine/2017/06/index.html

Article begins on page 24

 

[Mick!]

Ah right cheers, seems to be a trashing of the aerial friction brake.

 

[Grendel]

I think David Driver is loosing it. . . there was nothing terribly surprising or inflammatory in that article. I don't get why he's so worked up. It was written by a NATS guy, don't know him, but they're usually really good.

 

[Mick!]

I hear you, I always thought the friction brake seemed a bit daft.

Love his vids though.

 

[Grendel]

It is, I've got one of the original versions before Treestuff did their thing to it, and it's not something you'd want to use in the tree. It's a cool friction brake, just not for tree work.

 

[chris_girard]

I'm sure that there is a learning curve to using that aerial friction brake and my guess is that the NATS guys didn't have it yet.

 

[kevin bingham]

yeah, the article failed to mention context... different tools for different applications. the afb has its place so does the rig n wrench. the rig n wrench got a "fair" at least. the called the afb a catastrophic failure. lol. They dont really discuss the ways they are used. the last sentence pretty much reads.... in my interpretation. "these tools are different and dont work the way we are used to, you are best advised to just stick to what your used to otherwise you might get confused." (im doing it again Reg, changing around words on people. )

Anyway, all the points of the article seem fair, I just dont think it dealt with the context of the way all of these tools are designed to be used. None of them are designed to replace a portawrap. Chris said it right they hadn't learned where and how to use them before testing them.

 

[kevin bingham]

I also didnt see anything particularly specifically negative regarding the xring products. But they also didnt seem to be setting them up or using them correctly.

 

[SeanKroll]

It is, I've got one of the original versions before Treestuff did their thing to it, and it's not something you'd want to use in the tree. It's a cool friction brake, just not for tree work.

My BMS Belay Spool rolls in the truck, for sure.




I don't understand how someone reviews tools that they don't know how to use.

 

[August Hunicke]

LOL, at DD "losing it," not really, he's always been half unwound.
As far as the article. If you know the behind the scenes maneuverings of Buckingham and others you can see through the article a bit to the agenda. People pull strings because they can. David fights the game rather than plays the game. Makes things harder on himself in my opinion.


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[August Hunicke]

Agreed Sean. . . About reviewing.


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[cory]

Are you saying Buckingham has a competing product?

 

[August Hunicke]

No Cory, I was being vague, using Buckingham as an example of someone who uses their power and influence to push their own products via rules and regulations.


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[kevin bingham]

Are you saying Buckingham has a competing product?

the buck block is an ariel friction brake. its pretty sweet but it twists the hell out of the rope. The line guys love the hell out of them

 

[kevin bingham]

https://buckinghammfg.com/linemen/ox-family/ox-block/

I'm sorry its the ox block not the buck blocks

 

[cory]

Ok thanks.

I read the article, it seemed harmless.

 

[August Hunicke]

It's clever Cory but not harmless. Drawing attention to it is more harmful than helpful tho in my opinion.


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[cory]

That's kinda what I meant. Don't most guys decide for themselves rather than put stock in an article in a tree magazine? Take it all with a grain of salt. I mean can you really learn anything from an article that hasn't been discussed in great detail here?? Not everyone agrees but issues are explored and people can then decide if they haven't already.

 

[Mick!]

Tree climbing gear is relatively inexpensive, most people like to see a thing in action, and there's usually one guy in a group of tree guys who will buy something, then tell his mates about it.

It doesn't really matter what people say in magazines or online.

The zig zag got a lot of negative press at first (cracks and stuff) but now is a big seller.

If something is really good it will sell, if it ain't, a few will buy it and it'll bounce around the van for a few months.

 

[kevin bingham]

shoot, im stoked even with the "fair" review that the rig n wrench got mentioned as an option.

 

[SeanKroll]

The article looks highly skewed.


So when I used a ball peen hammer for framing a house with nails, it worked much better, albeit with its own limitations compared to framing a house with nails using a screw gun, which catastrophically failed half way through banging in the second 16p nail.