Wall of Shame: Wannabe Experts

[Mick!]

Yes, seen that.
Doesn’t look staged to me.
That would be a ballsy fell for anyone.
These guys look like they know a bit, but not enough..

 

[cory]

I thought they looked solid early when they knocked out a 'proper looking gob' (how'd I do Mick?!?!), but among other things, the backcut was way too high and worst of all, sloped.

 

[Mick!]

I thought they looked solid early when they knocked out a 'proper looking gob' (how'd I do Mick?!?!), but among other things, the backcut was way too high and worst of all, sloped.

Agreed.
Also to pull an immense tree like that with backlean needs more than just a tractor and bullrope, or if that’s all you got it needs a proper back cut, wedges and many years of experience.

 

[Maximalist]

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[cory]

 

[davidwyby]

Knew what was going to happen as soon as I saw the skinny slack rope and sloped back cut.

 

[davidwyby]

I’d dump it with a 15k winch anchored and doubled, maybe a tree jack too.

 

[Mick!]

More on that tree on the house vid.

 

[Mick!]

Not withstanding that the man’s home was crushed which is the only really important thing here, but……
If he’s renting it, where’s the owner?
If he’s on 1k a month, how much is the rent?
Hasn’t worked since 19?
What is the accent?

 

[flushcut]

French-Canadian is my guess.

But actually pulling on the line would have helped immensely.

Just playing devils advocate here but maybe it was an insurance fraud thing. Owner hires Meth Mouth Tree to do the job, set it up to look like an accident, but intentionally put the tree on the house: 1. to get rid of the tenant 2. Cash in on the tree Co.’s insurance and I’m sure the owners policy as well 3. Rebuild a much nicer house at triple the rental rate they are currently getting. The renter wasn’t home so timing is everything. And the pull line being set but with zero tension on it is questionable, “Oh no! The line broke at the tractor”. It would have been one thing if the line had broke and the tree went over backwards. It was the neighbor filming so MMT may not have been aware they were filmed.
I don’t know but that house got SSsssmmmmuuushed!

 

[davidwyby]

Butt looks like a crane pick cut...oops.

 

[davidwyby]

Looking again on full screen desktop. Sure enough. Cut most of the hinge off. Only hairs left -and the sloping back cut pried/levered/skidded it fwd. If they had enough hinge and a level back cut, they would have only gotten pinched, not lost it over backward.

EDIT

Better yet, a slightly low back cut to prevent pulling it off the stump. Gut the hinge so easier to tip, leave the better holding more flexible sapwood...just my thoughts.

 

[Mick!]

What is it with that sloping back cut?

I see it from time to time, does it have any merit anywhere, anytime?
@Burnham

 

[flushcut]

No merit, just flawed thinking that it’s safer.

 

[davidwyby]

What is it with that sloping back cut?

I see it from time to time, does it have any merit anywhere, anytime?
@Burnham

I have tried and tried and cannot find a use for it other than crane picks. I actually tested it once on an already down log. Thick hinge and sloped back cut...enough wedge pounding, and sure enough, blew the back of the stump off.

If you're very felling uneducated I guess it seems like the face slopes in the direction you want, so slope the back too...I dunno. I actually had a fella suggest it the other day. I gently corrected.

 

[Marc-Antoine]

It's thought that the slanted cut lives a stop behind the trunk's base to prevent it falling backward, like would a prop made out of a beam.
But it's completely delusional, there's zero advantage about it, only potential or real problems.

 

[Burnham]

What is it with that sloping back cut?

I see it from time to time, does it have any merit anywhere, anytime?
@Burnham

I completely agree with @flushcut, @davidwyby, and @Marc-Antoine. It is pure ignorant foolishness.

 

[Mick!]

Thought as much.
Imagine trying to fell a tree like that, with that amount of jeopardy, with next to no idea what you’re doing.

 

[Nutball]

He may have been better off doing it the Bob Villa way

 

[flushcut]

Bob Villa might be able to watch somebody else rebuild that house.

 

[flushcut]

I have tried and tried and cannot find a use for it other than crane picks. I actually tested it once on an already down log. Thick hinge and sloped back cut...enough wedge pounding, and sure enough, blew the back of the stump off.

If you're very felling uneducated I guess it seems like the face slopes in the direction you want, so slope the back too...I dunno. I actually had a fella suggest it the other day. I gently corrected.

To be honest that’s not even a good cut for crane picks. A bypass or straight thru is better for vertical wood. But the best cuts are made when you have an understanding of leverage and wood fiber strength in a given situation. What works with one tree might not work in another tree. Knowing which tree hinge well and knowing which do not greatly impacts how the cuts are made. Angles and dangles yo.