Treework Capital of the USA
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Tucker943
Bamboo Plantation Owner
I'll give you one example of many. An acquaintance of mine from the philly region has in his fleet a 25 ton crane, several buckets, log truck with roll off container, chip trucks, grapple chippers, pickups, tracked stump grinder with enclosed cab, standard stump grinders, and so on.
I'm not talking heavily used older equipment either. I'm talking chromed out peterbilts and kenworths.
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NeTree
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No crane here, Cory. But we try to be as hands-off as possible. And let's be honest; I'm a lazy bastid. 
Tucker943
Bamboo Plantation Owner
Anyone paying for a brand new crane that size with cash looks a lot to me like a BSTC. What i meant by that term is fast paced high dollar companies, not referring to the size of the trees themselves. Several grapple chippers that is. I don't know what tracked grinder he bought. I myself haven't seen it yet.
Tucker943
Bamboo Plantation Owner
One thing is for sure, where I live and do business, is NOT the capitol of treework. Never will be either. The tree scene here sucks, and its not because there isn't enough work.
treesandsurf
Treehouser
I'd have to say cali too but I guess I'm biased. I think the east coast is big on equipment and production at least from what I've heard from guys that call it home.
The west coast is a different ball game, of course there are outfits with a lot of equipment but in the bay area some of the best guys I know roll with a small chipper and truck and do some very high quality tree work. I don't think it's Hawaii.
jp
The west coast is a different ball game, of course there are outfits with a lot of equipment but in the bay area some of the best guys I know roll with a small chipper and truck and do some very high quality tree work. I don't think it's Hawaii.
jp
MasterBlaster
Administrator Emeritus
It would be neat to know, pound for pound, dollar for dollar, which state was the most lucrative as far as treework goes.
Al Smith
Mac Daddy
Well it isn't this portion of Ohio I can tell you that .
woodworkingboy
TreeHouser
I think cranes make it easy, especially with a crew that knows what is doing with cranes and everything is well coordinated. You can get a lot of trees down, limbed, and the logs stacked in a day. One guy ties off and does the cuts at elevation, another guy cuts at the base and helps with limbing, and if the work allows, one more guy helps with the limbing and can operate a mini to move the brush and stack the logs. I think that is a good crew that can do a lot of trees very efficiently, guess I'm mainly thinking about conifers. With the experience, knowing things like which chokers are needed for which picks, little stuff, makes for the work going expediently. Most of the time everybody has something to do with not much waiting in-between.
It seems to me discounting disease & insect control is a bit unrealistic when deciding what tree work is. If we only consider running saws it seems logging would qualify..
this is like a political poll...I want this answer so I form the question this way...?
this is like a political poll...I want this answer so I form the question this way...?
MasterBlaster
Administrator Emeritus
Yea, we're not talking about logging, for the most part.
OTGBOSTON
punk in drublic
I agree with your assessment...though I may be biased. Eastern Mass is heavily populated, there is a lot of money here, there are a lot of well educated people (because of all the universities), and educated people with money spend it on their property (landscapes). The Mass Tree Wardens Assoc is the oldest tree related organization in the country. It is state law that every town must have a Tree Warden. The Mass Arborists Assoc. offered a certification program 30 years before the ISA even existed. The Stockbridge School of Agriculture is here, most guys on a tree crew around here have an associates degree or more. Mostly I think its about population and money.
I would guess the Bay area would be similar if not equal.
Al Smith
Mac Daddy
I would think that in certain areas such as the Fla Keys where V is at or that island in South Carolina where WCTFL worked would be considered a unique niche market .
Both areas are high end realestate coupled with storm prone areas too boot .You get the combination of a lot of money floating around plus a never ending amount of work to do .
Both areas are high end realestate coupled with storm prone areas too boot .You get the combination of a lot of money floating around plus a never ending amount of work to do .
Tucker943
Bamboo Plantation Owner
I don't count logging as tree work. It is tree work in the literal sense, but in my lifetime, the words tree work always referred to tree removals/trimming/remedying in an urban setting.
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And trees.
Good call.
Agreed. Plus, have you ever worked on a big old tree and wondered how much money it has generated over its life to the folks who have worked on it?
I was asking in terms of treework, you know, cutting trees in a residential setting. IPM and spraying is good stuff and a nice money maker but you don't need big trees and lots of them to do it.
I'd have to say cali too but I guess I'm biased. I think the east coast is big on equipment and production at least from what I've heard from guys that call it home.
The west coast is a different ball game, of course there are outfits with a lot of equipment but in the bay area some of the best guys I know roll with a small chipper and truck and do some very high quality tree work.
jp
Good call. I would imagine in the Bay area you get alot to big trees that are inaccessible and/or too tall for equipment, so in roll the great climbers with the small chippers to git er done.
tophopper
The resident asshole
I wouldnt say we are the capital by any means, but here we have alot of trees, alot of remnants from old growth forests (now developed), and alot of people with money who are willing to spend it.
My vote would go for Mass. as well.
In what region are the most companies, and what type of annual revenues do they produce? Do they work year round? etc
My vote would go for Mass. as well.
In what region are the most companies, and what type of annual revenues do they produce? Do they work year round? etc
MasterBlaster
Administrator Emeritus
I don't think you can.
Al Smith
Mac Daddy
Well Mass .,Conn .all of the New England states is old money and well established neighborhoods often going back to colonial days .It's really a neat area of the country and I enjoyed my short stay in that area when I was in the navy .
I sometimes had a hell of a time trying to figure out what those Bostonians where talking about though .
I sometimes had a hell of a time trying to figure out what those Bostonians where talking about though .
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Al Smith
Mac Daddy
Well of course you can understand the lingo ,you've been there forever .Geeze I might as well have been in Australia .Imagine a flat land red neck midwesterner with a half fast hill billy accent caught up in culture shock .
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NeTree
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