Burnham
Woods walker
Might work, but might restrict the drop needed to get positive hitch engagement. Certainly the best for keeping the climber upright on the rope with minimal effort.
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NHlocal
TreeHouser
I could be mistaken but I think the SRT Demo Kit going around has a chest harness of some type in it.
It's got a few people to go through to get to me, but I'm really looking forward to trying out a "real" chest harness.
Ayuh, here it is Petzl Voltage Chest Harness , copied it off the list of what's in the kit.....
It's got a few people to go through to get to me, but I'm really looking forward to trying out a "real" chest harness.
Ayuh, here it is Petzl Voltage Chest Harness , copied it off the list of what's in the kit.....
rumination
Migratory Hippie Arbolist
When I started with the HH I was using lanyard-over-the-shoulder all the time. Now, most of the time, I'm using a simple webbing sling chest harness, for all of the reasons stated above. Much more ergonomic and easier to use.
Burnham
Woods walker
Since this thread has veered towards discussion of dedicated use chest harnesses, I thought I'd post a couple of pics to show what's in my gear bag. The USFS standard required all certified climbers to wear a chest harness whenever aloft, up until the last few years. The objective was to make aerial rescue a smidge easier, allowing easy attachment to provide upper body support.
But those of us that ventured off into old school SRT systems found that the same chest harness was just about imperative to setting those ascent systems up for best efficacy.
You new school SRT folks, using Kevin's RW or Paul's HH, might like to see what this oldster has been wearing for more than 25 years
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The first pic is of a commercially made unit by ABC some many years back: simple, light and adjustable, and quite affordable in those days. I suspect something similar is still on the market now, though the price might give me a shock.
The second pic is a homemade unit, easy as pie and ultra cheap. Not adjustable, as you can see, but a sweet chest harness that fits me like a glove, even now. Stitched on a borrowed commercial machine, took all of 2 minutes, at best.
Take a look, these or something similar are definately the way to go for SRT systems.
But those of us that ventured off into old school SRT systems found that the same chest harness was just about imperative to setting those ascent systems up for best efficacy.
You new school SRT folks, using Kevin's RW or Paul's HH, might like to see what this oldster has been wearing for more than 25 years
.The first pic is of a commercially made unit by ABC some many years back: simple, light and adjustable, and quite affordable in those days. I suspect something similar is still on the market now, though the price might give me a shock
.The second pic is a homemade unit, easy as pie and ultra cheap. Not adjustable, as you can see, but a sweet chest harness that fits me like a glove, even now
. Stitched on a borrowed commercial machine, took all of 2 minutes, at best.Take a look, these or something similar are definately the way to go for SRT systems.
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Burnham
Woods walker
Folks have spoken of several ways to set the chest harness to advance the HH as you ropewalk up. Here's my method.
I tried a simple 2mm cord loop with scaffold knot loops on each end, but didn't like the slop for hookup. Ran the same cord through a short length of stiff plastic tubing, like I have used to make custom gear loops on my saddles over the years...and there you have it.
Many ways to skin this cat, just thought I'd toss this one out for consideration.
I tried a simple 2mm cord loop with scaffold knot loops on each end, but didn't like the slop for hookup. Ran the same cord through a short length of stiff plastic tubing, like I have used to make custom gear loops on my saddles over the years...and there you have it.
Many ways to skin this cat, just thought I'd toss this one out for consideration.
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ClimbMIT
TreeHouser
Nicely done with the HH tender loop and home chest ascender
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
Nice!
SouthSoundTree
Treehouser
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NHlocal
TreeHouser
Very nice Burnham.
I like the chest harness and HH tender loop.
I was wondering looking at your setup, do you "tend" your HH from the "rope" side?
Does it tend better?
I have my tending loop on the "spine" side.
I like the chest harness and HH tender loop.
I was wondering looking at your setup, do you "tend" your HH from the "rope" side?
Does it tend better?
I have my tending loop on the "spine" side.
Burnham
Woods walker
Your orientation works best, Randy...with the rope running on the opposite side of the biner than my pic shows.
That's what happens when you throw something together for a photo, too fast.
That's what happens when you throw something together for a photo, too fast
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NHlocal
TreeHouser
Your orientation works best, Randy...with the rope running on the opposite side of the biner than my pic shows.
That's what happens when you throw something together for a photo, too fast
Ayuh,
done that more than a few times myself.
Thanks Burnham.....
Joezilla11
TreeHouser
Good catch I did that when I first got it myself!
Merle Nelson
TreeHouser
Burnham, clever looking set up! Thanks for sharing it.
That’s what I love about The Tree House, something that works well for someone else can be shared in days and weeks instead of it taking 25 years to learn about it.
That’s what I love about The Tree House, something that works well for someone else can be shared in days and weeks instead of it taking 25 years to learn about it.
NHlocal
TreeHouser
SouthSoundTree
Treehouser
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I think I would prefer the roller... Except during summer
Complete noobie here.
I suspected a chest roller would prevent my Hitch Hiker hitch from engaging and that's exactly what I found today. When I tried to sit in the harness on the HH, the PMI Chest Roller did a wonderful job of "tending" the hitch down preventing any engagement at all. FAIL! The roller also kept a hitch and pulley setup from engaging.
In order to try out the new chest roller, I had to place the HH above it on the rope, attached to the harness with a short webbing sling. Just for a quick test, I let the chest roller tend the HH upward which it did surprisingly well. While it all worked OK, I'm not at all happy with the HH placed high or having it tended by the roller and am not suggesting anyone do this. The roller certainly makes up for my lack of upper body strength and let me quickly go up 50'.
So where do I go from here? Anyone know of a better way to utilize an HH with a chest roller?
I was also trying an adjustable length foot loop on the knee ascender I spliced up a few days ago from Samson Ice Tail. I had had problems with a webbing sling coming off my boot as I climbed and wanted something that would snug down on the boot yet be released easily with one hand. The new foot loop worked extremely well.
This was also the first time I used cinched TIP vs a base anchor. I used an alpine butterfly and delta link for the cinch. Please let me know if you see anything wrong with it. Thanks
50' up....
NHlocal
TreeHouser
Looks pretty good from here.....
Good job getting up a 50' climb, that's a good "workout".
Good job getting up a 50' climb, that's a good "workout".
Oldmilltreecare
TreeHouser
GemCutter, I use that TIP most of the time. I use an oval Maillon instead but the whole thing always works perfectly.
NHlocal
TreeHouser
I'll have the chance to try out an "authentic" HAAS soon, lookin' forward to it.
And yes, I made my own, mostly due to the "zero budget" I'm on right now.
Also because I enjoy making and modifying my own gear.
And hey! Welcome to the 'House, my name is Randy.
And yes, I made my own, mostly due to the "zero budget" I'm on right now.
Also because I enjoy making and modifying my own gear.
And hey! Welcome to the 'House, my name is Randy.
'Ghetto Haas'! love it
I'd say like ^^ above, it's a budget issue, or like me I saw a ghetto system before I saw the Haas, and had already cobbled one together, then I saw your product...doh!
Hang around, you'll like it here.
I'd say like ^^ above, it's a budget issue, or like me I saw a ghetto system before I saw the Haas, and had already cobbled one together, then I saw your product...doh!
Hang around, you'll like it here.
rskybiz
TreeHouser
I too made a "ghetto" version for the reasons above. Your concept is genius all the best!
Joel
Joel
NHlocal
TreeHouser
'Ghetto Haas'! love it
I'd say like ^^ above, it's a budget issue, or like me I saw a ghetto system before I saw the Haas, and had already cobbled one together, then I saw your product...doh!
Hang around, you'll like it here.
Another one of those things I love about the 'House, all this great information that gets passed along and then the people that
came up with the idea and put it on the "market" to be available to the rest of us come here and like what they see "us" doing,
that's really encouraging.
(sorry about the run on sentence )I believe that says a lot about the character of this group of people,
happy to see progression for the benefit of the "craft" and not getting "hung up" on missing out on a few bucks.....
This isn't the first time I've seen it, as I said before, it is very encouraging(to me anyway).
Grendel
TreeHouser
I'm really digging the HAAS. Once I'm up I unhook the bungee and clip it around my left side onto a carritool. It stays on the boot and out of the way, to the point I forget it's there. Easy to re-engage when needed. Really sweet kit. Must confess I will probably cannibalize the components and build my own once this one wears out. . .
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