Quote Originally Posted by pantheraba
I changed the way I viewed folks after that.
I can imagine, but would you care to elaborate?
In our Bando there are basically 3 "paths"...athletics (sport), aesthetics (forms/fantasy/performance) and combatics (self-explanatory)...also referenced in our Bando as fitness, fantasy and function.
Our Atlanta group worked mainly the first 2...this was back in the mid 70's...we sparred hard, trained physically very intensively and did forms. We thought we had the combatics ciphered since we did well at sparring, physical agility, strength, etc. and had good forms.
We travelled to Ohio one weekend to train with the system grandmaster. The guys we trained with that fateful weekend in Athens, Ohio, were our grandmasters top level kickboxers. Fit guys, nice enough but they were "just kickboxers" to us...didn't know any of the forms that contain a lot of the knowledge of the System...if you know how to train the forms properly. They had limited knowledge of the Bando System but they were very proficient with a few well honed techniques -- combatics...the function of the system. Their punches and kicks were not like any we had ever experienced. We held pads for leg kicks...hold the pad on your forearm along your thigh. Bando guys are pretty good at shin kicks to the enemy's thigh...some of our guys can break 2x4's with a shin kick. Our instructor had good kicks and we thought they were powerful...he was very good at forms and fitness. We learned his disdain of "mere" kickboxers. These guys of "limited knowledge" were light years ahead of him. Their explosiveness and power had us limping even through the heavy pads. When we got in the ring with boxing gloves Dr. Gyi told us to use whatever technique we wanted...he limited them to one punch (right hand) and one target (our solar plexus).
They were masters of evasion, slipping...seldom had to block our blows or kicks because their agility was so good. And their pain tolerance was scary. I remember taking some hard body shots and managed to land a good solid kick to Mike's groin...bent him over and we had to pause while he got past the pain.
Which he smiled thru the whole time. It's pretty scary when a dude gets kicked in the balls and just smiles at you from his corner as he waits his chance to give you some payback.
I guess Dr. Gyi opened up the targeting somewhere along the line because my bud, Karl, got KO'd shortly after that by John...Mike's buddy. Those guys are still in our system and I have talked them about that day over the years. They said that we were just lunch for them. Dr. Gyi often had people that came up to train with him (we were there for the weekend to train)...he had folks like us fight his guys to test us and them. Last time I talked to Mike about it he said we were just one of many lunches for them.
I had to reset my understanding of what humans are capable of doing with their bodies after that weekend.