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Pc, can't say I know that line what is it? Is it non spliceable? I prefer the beauty of a hand splice did I say that too often? I am very attentive to detail with my climing systems. Hand splices are works of art and very streamlined, I hate knots. Makes for a beautiful setup. 023.jpg IMG04359-20120816-1932.jpg IMG04427-20120827-1932.jpg
 
Like Nick said, a few guys can bang out way more product with a machine that makes stitched eyes vs. hand splicing. The demand will always be there for hand splicing, but to many its not a big deal. I know when Rich H got his sewing machine here recently, it lifted quite a load off his shoulders from hand splicing. He was way behind on orders, now he's actually ahead I believe. They still do quite a bit of hand splicing, but for things like lanyards or eye 2 eyes, it works great. And ropes like Paul's 12 strand he has there, normally unspliceable or a huge pain in the rear to splice by hand, can now have sewn eyes put in.
 
Yup Yale Buzzzline, going to give it a try with the HH. My theory is the "bumpy" line will help the hitch grab more reliably.... I like the full 1/2 too as it is easier for me to hold since I dont wear gloves.
 
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I would probably consider getting somethings with stitched eyes if it cost about $10 to do and if I didn't know how to splice. However, I do splice so I probably won't be getting one anytime soon.
 
For my style of climbing a splice is a must. I have always done all my own slices so figured I would stitch it too. Looks like crap but is strong. Each to their own....
 
Not when you decide to footlock up a 100ft sycamore and realize at 60' or so that ascenders ( frog walker with wrench ) might have been a better choice on this day and a rest or two was in order. Thankful that I had a crotch just above me ( another 20' ) to set my climbline and pulley. That is an icetail prussic too which I have to agree with Nick, it doesn't feel great. But I do trust it. That is Adam P in the top left. Rec climb in Rhode Island this summer. Got to the climb late and that orange line was already set so I said what the hell up I go, after I had got a throw bag stuck. It was fun and the tree magnificent. DSC02673.JPG . Then at the top. DSC02693.JPG . Here is the Base. DSC02687.JPG
 

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Oh I am kind of a wuss dont ya know.

In all reality most of my ascending has always been done with mechanicals, its just know that I am learning to static footlock. I still need to build the stamina and refine my technique. I did a full rope length the other day (so 60' maybe?) and only rested once but at a branch. Most of the hanging is when I am transitioning onto a branch or whatnot. I definitely trust it, its just strange thats all.

My rock rope is 9.4 mm dominator, THATS skinny!
 
lol Paul I remember when you started that climb I was like damn this dude is really gonna footlock all the way up here.. I was impressed :thumbup: I'm sure without ascenders I would have stopped a ton.

At the end I left my u-saver up there and had to go back up on Bill N's walker setup. I still stopped a couple times on the way. Amazing tree I hope I get to climb it again someday
 
I don't know about being a wuss, I definitely don't fall in that catagory. But @45 I want to save my body to do other sports ( therefore I choose the easiest way to enter the tree ) I like other that climb trees which I only do for work. That sycamore rec climb was a first for me as I don't climb trees for fun. If I started this gig when I was a young man and my buds were into it we probably would have climbed everything in sight. However I enjoy my work and do so to provide for my family, I more have a love for chainsaws and what they can do. I like cutting wood, but obviously I need to climb to cut the wood at least down here where nobody uses bucket trucks ( can't afford to pay for them ). Footlocking is unatural and tough on the body compared to fog walking. I just do it because I can and I ain't no competition dude with it, I just ty to make it as smooth as can. LOL.
 
That is an interesting perspective, first a love for saws then secondary an enjoyment of climbing. I don't think I have ever seen it expressed like that. Rather thought provoking.....
 
That's what I'm saying WWB I have never fit in a box. I strive to be an individual and have never really followed a pattern, it has not always been easy as being a non conformist can bring ridicule and I really don't like ruffling feathers. Everyone should feel free to be who they are. Being different is kinda cool in my book. I am sure others will disagree with this philosophy but what floats another's boat is good with me. I tend to also drift off coarse when responding to threads, so sorry for this. Nothing to do with spliced eyes and really a big derail. Just like to clarify what's going on in my head.
 
I climb to much during the week to climb for fun. I have limbs still hanging in my trees from the Oct. storm. That's how much I love climbing for fun. :)

Maybe when I start pushing levers weekly I'll enjoy the occasional climb.



I like the idea of the stitched eyes due in course from being scared of human failure during splices. I do seem to recall people disecting big name splices to have them not be done to specs. Scary. Splicers can have bad days, just spooks me. Not saying machines don't make mistakes, but the stitched splice really is easy to inspect/figure out what's going on. I might get one done on my next rope.
 
Bartacked or "stitched" eyes are just fine as far as strength goes. They allow one to have an eye in ropes like kernmantle, and 12-strand solid braids which would have to have a knot. Knots by the way can give up up to 50% strength loss depending on the knot and the rope. The sewn are are not as clean as a hand splice, but they can be inspected much easier.
Aslo, many of the other high angle disciplines do not allow for a hand splice. Machine tack only. In all cases except for some Static Kernmantle line the bartack is every bit as strong as the rope or equivalent splice.
 
Back when I COULD footlock, I rested a lot, too. But I rested settled down on a footlock rather than hanging on my secureing hitch. Easier to get going again imo.
 
That's why I use icetail or ocean on tachyon, they both redress easily. I rest back then take a lock and redress never been a problem. The klemheist is better for this IMHO. Back off topic again I guess. 40' to 50' I am cool though no need to rest.
 
Hope I didn't use problem out of context Mr B. I have just developed that way is all, hope I did not offend. It was not my intent. You dudes were climbing way before me and I respect your views very much. I have never had anyone mentor me so please excuse if I have some different ways of doing things. I am mostly self taught. I will try your way and see how that works for me. Thanks.
 
No worries, bro. You go right ahead with what works for you, there is no such thing as the right or only way for nearly all of this gig.
 
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