Ivermectin vs. Covid and the vaccine

Yeppers , it’s not a vaccine in the traditional sense. As you peel the layers of the onion back it gets stranger and stranger. Looks like Kennedy was “removed” from Instagram.
 
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We are watching the rise of big tech oligarchy before our very eyes. Never before in human history have the people faced such a beast. This system of control requires censorship. If we do look at societies where fascism, oligarchy, and totalitarianism have usurped democracies, free speech is always the first to go.
 
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Au contrair mon frere! IF the service provider is acting as a publisher (ie ny times etc) then they can be sued for libel ... By the same logic an internet provider CANNOT legally ban free speech whilst acting as another agent: summation : the company cannot have its cake and eat it too ! One or the other. This is going thru the court system as we speak - mark my words , won’t be long now
 
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One of my best friend's wife got the vax for a job she hasn't even started. When I found out about the first vax, I tried to warn him and suggested that we at least tell her about the risks. He replied.. "she's my wife, don't interfere". She's been in bed for two days after the second shot. She's in a lot f pain. I haven't checked yet, but it's a near certainty he's sorry he didn't listen. He was looking really scared yesterday. I hate to be right about these things.

My roommate's Aunt is in her mid-70s. She was scheduled to get a flu vax earlier this year, and I asked him to tell her about the dangers of the flu shot (more money in vax reparations than any other vax) but he po-pooed it... I had the phone in my hand as was going to call her to warn her, and I thought twice about mucking around in other people's lives uninvited. Sure enough, she went to the pharmacy to get the vax and the pharmacist suggested she get another shot with it (the exact vax remains unclear) and had a bad reaction. When her doctor found out she had gotten the two shots together, he freaked out, saying they should never be given together. Since then the aunt has had a rapid decline in mental function. Overnight senility. I wanted him to report it to the Vaxxine adverse events reporting system (VAERS), but he won't.
 
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On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Catie Clobes of Howard Lake, Minnesota brought her happy, healthy, well-developed 6-month-old baby girl Evee Gayle Clobes to her well-baby checkup, whereupon the pediatrician declared her to be in “perfect health” with no problems or concerns. After Evee was examined by her pediatrician, the nurse administered her shots according to the CDC recommended schedule – 6 doses total, via Pediarix and Prevnar.

The evening of Thursday February 28th, Evee was unusually sleepy when her mother put her to bed on her back, and checked her at approximately 11:00 p.m. She checked on her periodically throughout the night. On Friday March 1st at 7:00 a.m., Catie discovered her daughter on her back, lifeless and not breathing, and called 911. Evee was rushed to Buffalo Hospital and pronounced dead on arrival.

The Midwest Medical Examiner assured Ms. Clobes on the day of her daughter’s death that “every test” would be performed, and confirmed that the shots administered approximately 36-hours prior to her death would definitely be investigated as a possible cause. The medical officer told her that infant deaths were taken very seriously, and she trusted that. At this point, the medical examiner had the full investigative report from detectives and interview from the mother, there was no insinuation from the medical examiner that they believed Evee's death was related to her position in the bed.

When Ms. Clobes followed up with the Medical Examiner’s Office in subsequent weeks to confirm that necessary tests were being performed to definitively confirm or rule out injury from her injections, including tests to measure critical proteins, enzymes, serum levels of adjuvants, and markers for inflammation, she was told, “It’s not medically necessary, there is no medical reasoning, and it’s not medically approved.”

She was informed that vaccines are not a “medically accepted” cause of death, nor does a code exist to classify them as a cause of death, and SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, defined as the unexplained death of an otherwise healthy infant) would appear on Evee’s autopsy report as the determined cause of death. To be clear, “Undetermined” was actually the official cause of death.

Evee’s family found this determination unacceptable in absence of complete data and examination. With the help of friends in their surrounding community, a fundraiser was launched, which raised the money needed to commission a private neuropathological study at an accredited independent lab. Initial results have shown the presence of a severe immune activation and cell infiltration in the brain in the absence of any infection – but not all the samples requested were sent.

Despite misleading and false reports in the media, (NBC) which stated two autopsies had already been completed, the independent examination and report was never able to be completed at the time of the article's printing due to the withholding of essential tissues. A big part of our battle was securing the tissues from the medical examiner's office, as well as finding a new neuropathologist to take Evee's case after the former pathologist left the case due to doxxing by the media, prior to ever issuing his final report aside from initial findings.
 
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this is the stance of the Catholic Church on the use of Vaxxines derived from aborted fetal cell lines:
I AM in complete agreement, and formally protest such evil.


Application to the use of vaccines prepared from cells coming from embryos or foetuses aborted voluntarily

In the specific case under examination, there are three categories of people who are involved in the cooperation in evil, evil which is obviously represented by the action of a voluntary abortion performed by others: a) those who prepare the vaccines using human cell lines coming from voluntary abortions; b) those who participate in the mass marketing of such vaccines; c) those who need to use them for health reasons.

Firstly, one must consider morally illicit every form of formal cooperation (sharing the evil intention) in the action of those who have performed a voluntary abortion, which in turn has allowed the retrieval of foetal tissues, required for the preparation of vaccines. Therefore, whoever - regardless of the category to which he belongs — cooperates in some way, sharing its intention, to the performance of a voluntary abortion with the aim of producing the above-mentioned vaccines, participates, in actuality, in the same moral evil as the person who has performed that abortion. Such participation would also take place in the case where someone, sharing the intention of the abortion, refrains from denouncing or criticizing this illicit action, although having the moral duty to do so (passive formal cooperation).

In a case where there is no such formal sharing of the immoral intention of the person who has performed the abortion, any form of cooperation would be material, with the following specifications.

As regards the preparation, distribution and marketing of vaccines produced as a result of the use of biological material whose origin is connected with cells coming from foetuses voluntarily aborted, such a process is stated, as a matter of principle, morally illicit, because it could contribute in encouraging the performance of other voluntary abortions, with the purpose of the production of such vaccines. Nevertheless, it should be recognized that, within the chain of production-distribution-marketing, the various cooperating agents can have different moral responsibilities.

However, there is another aspect to be considered, and that is the form of passive material cooperation which would be carried out by the producers of these vaccines, if they do not denounce and reject publicly the original immoral act (the voluntary abortion), and if they do not dedicate themselves together to research and promote alternative ways, exempt from moral evil, for the production of vaccines for the same infections. Such passive material cooperation, if it should occur, is equally illicit.

As regards those who need to use such vaccines for reasons of health, it must be emphasized that, apart from every form of formal cooperation, in general, doctors or parents who resort to the use of these vaccines for their children, in spite of knowing their origin (voluntary abortion), carry out a form of very remote mediate material cooperation, and thus very mild, in the performance of the original act of abortion, and a mediate material cooperation, with regard to the marketing of cells coming from abortions, and immediate, with regard to the marketing of vaccines produced with such cells. The cooperation is therefore more intense on the part of the authorities and national health systems that accept the use of the vaccines.

However, in this situation, the aspect of passive cooperation is that which stands out most. It is up to the faithful and citizens of upright conscience (fathers of families, doctors, etc.) to oppose, even by making an objection of conscience, the ever more widespread attacks against life and the "culture of death" which underlies them. From this point of view, the use of vaccines whose production is connected with procured abortion constitutes at least a mediate remote passive material cooperation to the abortion, and an immediate passive material cooperation with regard to their marketing. Furthermore, on a cultural level, the use of such vaccines contributes in the creation of a generalized social consensus to the operation of the pharmaceutical industries which produce them in an immoral way.

Therefore, doctors and fathers of families have a duty to take recourse to alternative vaccines13 (if they exist), putting pressure on the political authorities and health systems so that other vaccines without moral problems become available. They should take recourse, if necessary, to the use of conscientious objection14 with regard to the use of vaccines produced by means of cell lines of aborted human foetal origin. Equally, they should oppose by all means (in writing, through the various associations, mass media, etc.) the vaccines which do not yet have morally acceptable alternatives, creating pressure so that alternative vaccines are prepared, which are not connected with the abortion of a human foetus, and requesting rigorous legal control of the pharmaceutical industry producers.

As regards the diseases against which there are no alternative vaccines which are available and ethically acceptable, it is right to abstain from using these vaccines if it can be done without causing children, and indirectly the population as a whole, to undergo significant risks to their health. However, if the latter are exposed to considerable dangers to their health, vaccines with moral problems pertaining to them may also be used on a temporary basis. The moral reason is that the duty to avoid passive material cooperation is not obligatory if there is grave inconvenience. Moreover, we find, in such a case, a proportional reason, in order to accept the use of these vaccines in the presence of the danger of favouring the spread of the pathological agent, due to the lack of vaccination of children. This is particularly true in the case of vaccination against German measles15.

In any case, there remains a moral duty to continue to fight and to employ every lawful means in order to make life difficult for the pharmaceutical industries which act unscrupulously and unethically. However, the burden of this important battle cannot and must not fall on innocent children and on the health situation of the population - especially with regard to pregnant women.

To summarize, it must be confirmed that:

  • there is a grave responsibility to use alternative vaccines and to make a conscientious objection with regard to those which have moral problems;
  • as regards the vaccines without an alternative, the need to contest so that others may be prepared must be reaffirmed, as should be the lawfulness of using the former in the meantime insomuch as is necessary in order to avoid a serious risk not only for one's own children but also, and perhaps more specifically, for the health conditions of the population as a whole - especially for pregnant women;
  • the lawfulness of the use of these vaccines should not be misinterpreted as a declaration of the lawfulness of their production, marketing and use, but is to be understood as being a passive material cooperation and, in its mildest and remotest sense, also active, morally justified as an extrema ratio due to the necessity to provide for the good of one's children and of the people who come in contact with the children (pregnant women);
  • such cooperation occurs in a context of moral coercion of the conscience of parents, who are forced to choose to act against their conscience or otherwise, to put the health of their children and of the population as a whole at risk. This is an unjust alternative choice, which must be eliminated as soon as possible.
 
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