As for my personal "rules of engagement" it should be noted that I am usually alone, am an effectively non-speaker of the national language, Japanese, (the telephone is the worst... face to face I get by), my usual place for doing this tree work is at most a few kilometres from my home, but, and it is a big but, the probable rescuers of me up 20 metres in a tree, and not real close to a road, is the police mountain rescue team that is based in the nearest city, Chino, about 40 kilometres away. The police have an excellent helicopter cable winch system for mountain rescue. The catch is that the weather has to be safe to fly in. The mountain I am on is called "Kirigamine" which translates as "Ridge of Mist" and it is apply named. Have you ever been in a helicopter in below legal flying visibilty. I have several times and it is very, very, very "interesting" as in scary, dangerous and difficult. The nearest fire station with a bigger truck, long ladder, is about 25 kilometres away and what would they do if they couldn't get near me. And on and on and on it goes. So I attempt to act accordingly. "My work is poor, but at least it's slow." Thank you ya' all for the feed-back. One of the things that I personally like about the tree work is that, unlike mountain guiding, especially mechanized skiing... heli-skiing, snow cat-skiing... I don't have to be nice to somebody, who may or may not be acting in a dangerous manner, just for the money. But the tree work is just as intense with the same sort of unrelenting focus, without letting the tunnel vision creep in. My occasional 72 year old Japanese assistant is rather amazed at the intensity of my focus when doing this trick with a rope and saw up in a tree next to a house. Kneedle Knoddle Knew, Roddy