vharrison
Island Girl
Did you read the masseuse that found him called one of the Olsen twins (twice) before calling 911. That is messed up. The Olsen girl told her she would send her personal body gaurds over...what? NO, call 911.
Heath Ledger dead
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Tom_Scheller
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I really liked The Patriot.
V, he must have been obviously dead or the folks involved will have some explaining to do.
TS
V, he must have been obviously dead or the folks involved will have some explaining to do.
TS
Old Monkey
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Doesn't everyone have those medical alert tags that say "In case of emergency call Mary Kate Olsen?
Paul B
I dig hammocks.
mine says call Ashley.I guess I am the odd duck.
Thor's Hammer
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The Patriot was a huge steaming pile of shit. If you want a bit more historical accuracy watch Ned Kelly.
Thor's Hammer
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From Wikipedia -
'Despite being a box office hit, The Patriot generated an unusual amount of public controversy, being widely attacked by critics, historians, and politicians for its brutal depiction of events in the Revolutionary War. Because of the level of violence in the film, including a much-discussed scene showing two children killing a soldier, in the U.S. the film was classified 'R' for strong war violence.[2]
Aversion to the violent content apparently contributed to its being beaten at the box office on its opening holiday weekend by The Perfect Storm.[3]
Challenging the film's historicity, the British newspaper The Guardian condemned the main inspiration behind Mel Gibson's character, Francis Marion, as ‘a serial rapist who hunted Red Indians for fun’, and quoted historian Christopher Hibbert as saying: ‘The truth is that people like Marion committed atrocities as bad, if not worse, than those perpetrated by the British.’[4]
Ben Fenton, commenting in the British Telegraph on the sadistic character of Colonel William Tavington, purportedly based on Colonel Banastre Tarleton, wrote: ‘there is no evidence that Tarleton, called "Bloody Ban" or "The Butcher" in rebel pamphlets, ever broke the rules of war and certainly not that he ever shot a child in cold blood.’[5] Liverpool City Council, led by Mayor Edwin Clein, called for a public apology for what they viewed as the film’s ‘character assassination’ of Tarleton, a former local MP.[6]
Of greatest concern was the film’s anachronistic transposing of Waffen SS atrocities into the Revolutionary War, including the heavy emphasis on the killing of prisoners, wounded and children, culminating in a group of townsfolk being burnt alive in a church, in a scene that closely resembles the massacre of Oradour in German-occupied France in 1944: in a review article in Salon.com, Jonathan Foreman, film critic for the New York Post, wrote: ‘The most disturbing thing about The Patriot is not just that German director Roland Emmerich (director of the jingoistic Independence Day) and his screenwriter Robert Rodat (who was criticized for excluding British and other Allied soldiers from his script for Saving Private Ryan) depict British troops as committing savage atrocities, but that those atrocities bear such a close resemblance to war crimes carried out by German troops - particularly the SS in World War II. It's hard not to wonder if the filmmakers have some kind of subconscious agenda ... They have made a film that will have the effect of inoculating audiences against the unique historical horror of Oradour - and implicitly rehabilitating the Nazis while making the British seem as evil as history's worst monsters ... So it's no wonder that the British press sees this film as a kind of blood libel against the British people.’[7]
In a letter to the editor of the Hollywood Reporter the prominent U.S. director Spike Lee also accused the film’s portrayal of slavery as being ‘a complete whitewashing of history.’[8] Furthermore the idea that a southern plantation owner did not own slaves is highly anachronistic to the time period.
Further inaccuracies include the depiction of the battle of Guilford Courthouse, which implied this action was a victory for the Americans. In reality, the British won the field at Guilford courthouse in a pyrrhic victory against an enemy in a strong defensive position who outnumbered them more than 2-1.
Some critics have said even the name of the film is ironic. From the beginning, Benjamin Martin rejects all patriotic arguments by his friends to join in the war effort. When his own son is killed, Martin undertakes a personal vendetta against Tavington and the British, giving rein to the berserker demon that haunted his past and his nightmares. As such, Martin was anything but the patriot for which the film is named.
Gibson responded to the charges of historical inaccuracy by saying The Patriot was 'a film with a bias - told from a point of view'.'
'Despite being a box office hit, The Patriot generated an unusual amount of public controversy, being widely attacked by critics, historians, and politicians for its brutal depiction of events in the Revolutionary War. Because of the level of violence in the film, including a much-discussed scene showing two children killing a soldier, in the U.S. the film was classified 'R' for strong war violence.[2]
Aversion to the violent content apparently contributed to its being beaten at the box office on its opening holiday weekend by The Perfect Storm.[3]
Challenging the film's historicity, the British newspaper The Guardian condemned the main inspiration behind Mel Gibson's character, Francis Marion, as ‘a serial rapist who hunted Red Indians for fun’, and quoted historian Christopher Hibbert as saying: ‘The truth is that people like Marion committed atrocities as bad, if not worse, than those perpetrated by the British.’[4]
Ben Fenton, commenting in the British Telegraph on the sadistic character of Colonel William Tavington, purportedly based on Colonel Banastre Tarleton, wrote: ‘there is no evidence that Tarleton, called "Bloody Ban" or "The Butcher" in rebel pamphlets, ever broke the rules of war and certainly not that he ever shot a child in cold blood.’[5] Liverpool City Council, led by Mayor Edwin Clein, called for a public apology for what they viewed as the film’s ‘character assassination’ of Tarleton, a former local MP.[6]
Of greatest concern was the film’s anachronistic transposing of Waffen SS atrocities into the Revolutionary War, including the heavy emphasis on the killing of prisoners, wounded and children, culminating in a group of townsfolk being burnt alive in a church, in a scene that closely resembles the massacre of Oradour in German-occupied France in 1944: in a review article in Salon.com, Jonathan Foreman, film critic for the New York Post, wrote: ‘The most disturbing thing about The Patriot is not just that German director Roland Emmerich (director of the jingoistic Independence Day) and his screenwriter Robert Rodat (who was criticized for excluding British and other Allied soldiers from his script for Saving Private Ryan) depict British troops as committing savage atrocities, but that those atrocities bear such a close resemblance to war crimes carried out by German troops - particularly the SS in World War II. It's hard not to wonder if the filmmakers have some kind of subconscious agenda ... They have made a film that will have the effect of inoculating audiences against the unique historical horror of Oradour - and implicitly rehabilitating the Nazis while making the British seem as evil as history's worst monsters ... So it's no wonder that the British press sees this film as a kind of blood libel against the British people.’[7]
In a letter to the editor of the Hollywood Reporter the prominent U.S. director Spike Lee also accused the film’s portrayal of slavery as being ‘a complete whitewashing of history.’[8] Furthermore the idea that a southern plantation owner did not own slaves is highly anachronistic to the time period.
Further inaccuracies include the depiction of the battle of Guilford Courthouse, which implied this action was a victory for the Americans. In reality, the British won the field at Guilford courthouse in a pyrrhic victory against an enemy in a strong defensive position who outnumbered them more than 2-1.
Some critics have said even the name of the film is ironic. From the beginning, Benjamin Martin rejects all patriotic arguments by his friends to join in the war effort. When his own son is killed, Martin undertakes a personal vendetta against Tavington and the British, giving rein to the berserker demon that haunted his past and his nightmares. As such, Martin was anything but the patriot for which the film is named.
Gibson responded to the charges of historical inaccuracy by saying The Patriot was 'a film with a bias - told from a point of view'.'
MasterBlaster
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It was entertainment. Next you'll be saying pro wrestling is fake. :roll:
Thor's Hammer
Wolfish. Sometimes Bites.
You mean its not real??
