I just did a 30 day detox.... lost 12 pounds, no alcohol, caffeine, sugar, salt, bread pasta, meat, just raw fruit, veg nuts dried fruits, fresh veg juices, and dherb.com supplements.... Now im on vacation in Florida with my pop, drinking, eating, and I feel fat already! KIm gonna get back on some kinda regime when I get back to NY, but for sure Im joining a gym! That is where ill be able to work it off. Working and climbing just doesnt shed weight for me. Maybe its muscle memory... I nee cardion and weights, lots of it. And to not drink! That is what puts the pounds on......