200T Issue

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Ductile iron is the same as nodular iron .Basically the same thing crankshafts are made of and auto engine cylinder blocks .A lot more tough than plain gray cast iron .
 
I was going to try a set of Caber or those in a 372 I need to re-ring. Hmmmmmm
 
I have a set of Caber for one of the 066s I own. I may put a set of the NWP in the other and see how they compare. Just juggling the thought :/:
I need to equalize the playing field tad with compression and check the porting... Can't find my old caliper... Time for a new one..
I have to change out some other parts as well... 2 port muffler yada yada.. So like I said... Mulling it over.
 
I didn't know anybody made an aftermarket piston to fit a 200 .Now if someone came up with a cylinder that could open up a whole new avenue .

Like I said before you can find a zillion crank cases on flea bay so they all must have died from a fried cylinder .
 
I heard (or read some where) earlier this year that Bailey was supposed to start offering whole P&C kits for the 200 last summer. Still hope they do even if it is at a later date. I had a Meteor piston floating about and that was part of a piston kit I got from Baileys few years ago hoping I could use it in the FS250's but it did not fit the rod. Proper machine shop could have fixed that.
Now that the 201 is out, we should see something soon I bet. I have a perfectly good crankcase out in the shop that would appreciate it if they do :D
 
I'd certainly think as many 020 and 200t's they made somone would surely make a recylinder kit for them .If you went through Stihl you'd have a fortune in the thing .If a Stihl shop did it they'd rebearing and the whole nine yards and I'd bet it would come out about new price .
 
Well yes then throw in another hundred for the bearings and seals plus another 20 for the gaskets plus 200 for the work and you've got the price of a new one .
 
Exactly. Hell, a carb is $100.00 I believe or close to it. Just the damn intake boot will about set you back at least a 1/3 of that. Labor $55.00 local here.. You better have a hell of a love affair with your saw to have our dealer rebuild one for you :lol:
Better suck more than air ;)
 
Well that's why I've always been an advocate of rolling your own ,so to speak .Mechainics learn as well as so called super gurus of chainsawdom .Nobody was born with it,it's all learned and earned .;)
 
I have to say Alan, the local mechanic, has come a long way over the last few years. There was a time I felt like I just wanted to shake him. Sometimes things came back more goofed up than when they went in. He is getting pretty damn good at analyzing the saws and equipment. Still gets a little absent minded in some things. But the shop is a hell of a lot more tolerable than a couple years ago..... I would go in so steamed up some days, the owner would run :lol:
 
CurSedVoyce said:
Here is a shot of one Al....
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Phew.

Thoughts of this being like a scavenger ring, might be correct but I am not sure it will help.
When a ring is worn it is usually as the saw got too hot. These can get worn just as well.
Running hot is often fuel related, but also overload/stress.
The only contact there is between materials to transfer heat from piston of is the ring.
 
There is lots of 200's that turn under 9000 in wood. I see it often.
Scream like crazy out of the wood, but loose the momentum fast...

Spec's say they give most power at 10 000rpm. But have you checked?
"Set it to 14000 with B & C mounted no load" it should turn 10 000 and produce 1,6Kw.

I am not a power plant and have no use of KW. I want a wood eating monster!
 
You have to remember though that no matter if it's a little 200T or a big old 084 that once you change the porting scheme those factory presets no longer apply .
 
You guys have helped me understand tuning these saws by ear for the most part. Tach just lets me know where I am at. Proof of the tune will be in the cut... refine adjustment if necessary.
The one 066 I recently bought I was told may have been ported.. I will check that. I was also told the compression had been raised. I imagine the gasket would have been removed. It recently lost compression after being one hard cranking mothar. Compression wise. No decomp either:|:
Pullin sumbiach I was considering getting a 42 bar for just to have one.
I suspect that whatever the guy used for a sealant between the crank case and the head blew out. Cylinder not scored from what I can see through the ports.
I will put this one back together and check the measurements of the ports etc against my stock 066 when I freshen the rings and carb up... Then if the one is ported side to side I may try to make them equal. If it is ported up and down in the ports, changing the timing even more, that will be beyond my current capabilities and tools to reset the timing... I will just keep one saw hot, the other in reason ;)
 
If all that was done was the cylinder dropped it most likely will not have the WOT rpms . Just a wee bit slower . What it should have is grunt galore .

A blown base gasket or even a torn intake boot should not drop the compression .Sounds like maybe a ring .Now if the rings are faulty and the cylinder and piston is a good a new set of rings will probabley fix it .Keep in mind though that new rings on a used cylinder take some time to seat in .They will given enough run time .
 
Tucker943 said:
All. The POS I bought had all the performance any of my others had, it just wasnt reliable at all. Most of my 200Ts over the years were pretty reliable. Some acted up, but nothing I would get too mad at a saw for considering how they get used.
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I'll be interested to hear how the Jonny works out for you.
 
Oh it has grunt Al.... When I was looking at it to buy, I buried that sucka in 36" of hard dead dry oak. It did just fine :D Yeah, betting it could be rings as well... thus having a set of Cabers in the shop :D
 
:lol: How come you always have a ton of parts around all the time ? What did you do buy out a parts warehouse or something ?

Seems like most of the time the parts I need I don't have and parts I have a ton of I never need .Now that sucks .
 
I anticipate certain things and projects I want to do and purchase accordingly.
Prime example are the 40mm rings.. They fit the 200T and FS250. The hours we put on the 250s will warrant some rings sooner than later and I have a couple parts units I can Frankenstein if needed.
I try to keep on hand certain things I know will wear out and are going to be due to wear out sooner than later. :)
When I bout the second 066, I got some rings for my other 066 as I was going to freshen the saw up and not worry about it being down since I had another. Then the compression went on that newer addition to the fleet. Tada.. set of rings ready to go :D
I am starting to build up an accumulation of stuff though... SO ebay the good stuff used or dump run :lol:
 
Tucker943 said:
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Ive concluded in my short life that when a company makes 10 of one item, all in a row off the assembly line, 2 are going to be super performers that seldom fail. 6 are going to be good all around items that live up to their expectation and fail now and again. And 2 are going to be shit that are one problem after another. I have had several 372's over the years. I have one right now that right out of the box blows away any 372 I ever touched in my life. It has NEVER acted up once in 3 straight years of daily demanding use, and has been rolled on twice by tree trunks and suffered major injuries each time. I believe that in that batch of 10 saws on the assembly line that day, I got of one the 2 super performers.
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I've been singing the same tune for quite a while now...some folks can see it, but many seem oblivious...
 
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