T-Side Figure Eight???

[No_Bivy]

Munter will twist the SHIT outta your rope......try an ATC...very little twist

 

[Hobby Climber]

Looks interesting this ATC thing. But how do you tie it off is the point.

The idea of the Side or T-Side ears on the Fif.8 is to be able to tie off quickly & easily!

Yes the ATC looks like it would be great for long descents withoug much line twist but there is no way to tie off to hold a position with this device. Then again , I've never uses one and I stand to be corrected if wrong.

HC

 

[NickfromWI]

Munter will twist the SHIT outta your rope......try an ATC...very little twist

A couple times I tried doubling the munter. One right on top of the other wrapped in opposite direction.

No twist.

love
nick

 

[No_Bivy]

no twist.....I dont believe it

Hobby, If I have to stop I do leg wraps......I know its a PITA but the device is super small, light and works on skinny ropes. I use either the ATC or the Mammut Fuse.

 

[Hobby Climber]

no twist.....I dont believe it

Hobby, If I have to stop I do leg wraps......I know its a PITA but the device is super small, light and works on skinny ropes. I use either the ATC or the Mammut Fuse.

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NoBivy,


Please add a picture so everyone doesn't have to look it up if they never saw one before. (see below - Mammut Fuse)

Just wondering what any of those you mentioned are rated at (kN?).

I see it can be used either with single or Dbl line...cool.

On smaler lines it look OK but I'm a 1/2" line kinda guy so I'm leaning twards the T-Side FIg.8 for tree work. But thats just me.


HC

 

[No_Bivy]

sorry...
these belay devices are plenty strong, dont know about the KN rating....may be a little tight with fat 1/2 ropes

 

[NickfromWI]

I lock off all my belay devices the same way.

http://ropedup.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/how-to-lock-off-belay-device/

love
nick

 

[NickfromWI]

sorry...
these belay devices are plenty strong, dont know about the KN rating....may be a little tight with fat 1/2 ropes

I sometimes use the Trango Jaws

I swear with half inch line you can let go and it will hold you! You have to feed the rope into the device to descend.

love
nick

 

[RIVERRAT]

All figure eights work basically the same way, Jeff. How is THIS too big for your saddle?

I keep a deaf 8 on my saddle. My last post was in response to descenders such as the Petzl like Carl uses.

 

[MasterBlaster]

I didn't know descenders were stored on your saddle, I assumed you meant figure eights.

 

[RIVERRAT]

Your right. Wouldn't use it except on TDs.

 

[MasterBlaster]

I don't know why anyone would use them at all unless it was for a 100' plus descent. A simple figure 8 will do the job, most of the time.

 

[darkstar]

Never a twist with a gri gri.
And talk about supa easy lock off.
Plus it will hold a factor 2 fall .
Not made for large dia. ropes though

 

[No_Bivy]

double line?:what:

 

[Old Monkey]

I hardly ever use a descender as the trees I climb are mostly shorter than 40'. When I was a heli-rappeler we used something called a Sky Genie that is supposed to be idiot proof. We had a few idiots put it to the test. No one died but you can still auger in if you are not bright.

 

[Hobby Climber]

OM,

I see these descenders used mostly with the window washing crews in my area.

HC

 

[sotc]

I like a munter on a biner. An extra biner is always on my saddle, and the amount of time I use it, I don't have to worry about an 8 clanging around on my saddle.

me to, its so rare i need to come down single line i just throw a muenter. dont even keep and extra biner, just un hook my spilt tail and go

 

[brendonv]

The only time I come down single line is if there is a pull line on a spar, sometimes I will zip down on that if I didn't leave a nub for my DRT setup to come down on.

 

[sotc]

zactly

 

[RIVERRAT]

I don't know why anyone would use them at all unless it was for a 100' plus descent. A simple figure 8 will do the job, most of the time.

For single line.Tying a running bowline around a snag & attaching the descender to your saddle for throwing chunks.
Much safer than just throwing your snap & climb line around the snag.

 

[NickfromWI]

We had a few idiots put it to the test. No one died but you can still auger in if you are not bright.

What do you mean by "auger in?"

love
nick

 

[No_Bivy]

deck....aka...gravity check

 

[Hobby Climber]

I was on the phone the other day with a fellow who knows the guy(& company) that designed and makes the T-Side Fig-8.

It was first designed for rescue work but I think it would be a great tool for the tree industry! I'm in the process of seeing if I can make this happen. This company is sending me some info about this tool and I'll share with you once I get it.

I'll keep ya posted.


BTW, Just how many of you guys would be interested in a "T-Side fig-8" for tree work???

I'm on a quest once again!


Bob

 

[brendonv]

I'm just wondering how you use it!

 

[lumberjack]

What's wrong with a tree guy getting it from a non arb source?

http://www.safetysaves.com/safety_wear/product.php?productid=2908