Interesting product.....
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MasterBlaster
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Meh. I'd rather have a Raptor.
bonner1040
Nick from Ohio
Doesnt a wraptor go 100'/minute? The power seat while having a 600# capacity only goes 45/minute.
The part they leave out is that in most industrial applications: towers, turbines, buildings; they dont just happen to have ropes hanging on em. You gotta climb to the top no matter what.
In my time as a tower worker I worked on buildings, towers, water towers, smokestacks all sorts of stuff, never once did I in any way ascend a rope. I went down a rope a few times, but never up.
45'/minute is awfully slow.
The part they leave out is that in most industrial applications: towers, turbines, buildings; they dont just happen to have ropes hanging on em. You gotta climb to the top no matter what.
In my time as a tower worker I worked on buildings, towers, water towers, smokestacks all sorts of stuff, never once did I in any way ascend a rope. I went down a rope a few times, but never up.
45'/minute is awfully slow.
Burnham
Woods walker
Did you find out the pricing, Paul?
bonner1040
Nick from Ohio
Only in treework, to my knowledge, do workers set ropes from the ground. The hookups and safety setup with the Harken did not look conducive to what we do either.
I wouldnt worry, although I did see this the other day and thought the option to rig it at the top and have it winch you up with a remote was pretty awesome.
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I wouldnt worry, although I did see this the other day and thought the option to rig it at the top and have it winch you up with a remote was pretty awesome.
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PCTREE
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Haven't found a price yet. My first ever Wraptor was similar to this in that it used a self tailing winch to grip the rope. I went away from that idea when I got to the top of a big poplar and felt the temperature of the peeler arm.....it burnt my finger. This desighn has what looks to be a stainless peeler; wonder how they get away with that. Maybe that's why it only goes 45' per minute.....
pete mctree
Treehouser
It looks like a well constructed & thought-out product & the bi-directional facility is interesting
The seat idea does look limiting - both in mobility of the user & in a confined or awkward space, such as a tree canopy in our case. It will be interesting to find out costings for sure
The seat idea does look limiting - both in mobility of the user & in a confined or awkward space, such as a tree canopy in our case. It will be interesting to find out costings for sure
Thor's Hammer
Wolfish. Sometimes Bites.
For an industrial application, particularly for inspection and testing, this is an excellent piece of equipment. Different market to the wraptor.
bonner1040
Nick from Ohio
I can see inspection, but again, you still gotta go to the top to hang a rope, its just as easy to inspect on the way down using an ID or a RIG than some extremely expensive ascender. Its different in tree work where the goal is to get to the top.
flushcut
TreeHouser
I vote Wraptor. I have never used one but I have worked with John Sanborn and have seen his in action many times and want one.
I like the idea of the Powerseat but it looks very limited in tree work due to the shear size of it.
I like the idea of the Powerseat but it looks very limited in tree work due to the shear size of it.
Burnham
Woods walker
Nick, it seems to me that if a business encorporated a powered ascender into their work, it would be child's play to make arrangements for permanent top rope mounting that could be set from the ground.
bonner1040
Nick from Ohio
In my experience they require fixed anchors that need to be inspected. Additionally in any industrial applications you need two ropes, work and life line.
I don't see leaving a throw line to pull up a life line as kosher. There are all sorts of hazards, sharp metal being a big one.
You either take an elevator or a ladder to the top and work down.
I like the rescue side of it though, but again, they usually enter top side and exit down.
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I don't see leaving a throw line to pull up a life line as kosher. There are all sorts of hazards, sharp metal being a big one.
You either take an elevator or a ladder to the top and work down.
I like the rescue side of it though, but again, they usually enter top side and exit down.
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Burnham
Woods walker
We can agree to disagree 
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Adam_P
TreeHouse WebMaster
They've had a couple ads in the first two issues of arb climber mag.. looks cool but a bit big and kind of awkward.
I have about 20 years to go before I'm thinking about an easy ride up.. Paul if you're still making wraptors in 2032 I'll pick one up.
Maybe by then it'll be about magnets and anti gravity stuff... I'm sure 20 years ago if someone mentioned a motorized ascender for treework people would think you'd been watching star wars too much..
I have about 20 years to go before I'm thinking about an easy ride up.. Paul if you're still making wraptors in 2032 I'll pick one up.
Maybe by then it'll be about magnets and anti gravity stuff... I'm sure 20 years ago if someone mentioned a motorized ascender for treework people would think you'd been watching star wars too much..
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brendonv
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Such a silly way of thinking. Lets beat my body up for 20 more years, that way when I'm decrepit I can buy the tools to save my body. 
Sign me up for levers, buttons, or any sort of throttled device to make my life easier. I'll expend my energy on extra circular activities instead!
Call me young and lazy, you won't hurt my feelings.
Sign me up for levers, buttons, or any sort of throttled device to make my life easier. I'll expend my energy on extra circular activities instead!
Call me young and lazy, you won't hurt my feelings.
Burnham
Woods walker
Bingo, Bren. My thoughts exactly.
woodworkingboy
TreeHouser
canadiantreeman
TreeHouser
Fair point...now is it a wraptor or a chipper first? For me, twill be the latter. But its on my wishlist.
That seat is most definitely not a good tool for production arbos...but I could see some consulting arborists wanting it.
That seat is most definitely not a good tool for production arbos...but I could see some consulting arborists wanting it.
brendonv
Tree Hugger
I hear that a lot though, and I just don't get the logic behind it.
I can leave those labor saving tools home any day of the week to make me feel macho for a day. Every day, naaaaaaaaa.
First things first, Dylan right? A chipper is a KEY tool in tree operations.
I can leave those labor saving tools home any day of the week to make me feel macho for a day. Every day, naaaaaaaaa.
First things first, Dylan right? A chipper is a KEY tool in tree operations.
FJR
Treehouser
The wraptor is a blessing. Efficiency makes money in this business. I am all for buttons and levers too, or even a magic wand if I could. So Paul, please keep your innovations and ideas coming.
Adam_P
TreeHouse WebMaster
Such a silly way of thinking. Lets beat my body up for 20 more years, that way when I'm decrepit I can buy the tools to save my body.
Sign me up for levers, buttons, or any sort of throttled device to make my life easier. I'll expend my energy on extra circular activities instead!
Call me young and lazy, you won't hurt my feelings.
You're young and lazy!
And well ahead of the game in thinking.
I didn't mean to imply I wouldn't WANT one. Truth is I'm not on my own and won't be any time in the near future. We don't do a lot of wrecking at all. Lots of pruning and ornamental stuff. Today I think the highest I probably got was 50' and after the first 25' on that tree it had a nice scaffold. If I were wrecking or climbing the big PNW stuff I'd be begging santa to leave one under the tree. I'm all for having more tools. You should see my garage...
