Hang Gliding!

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James -

www.flytexas.com problem is that in winter Jeffo's business is www.flymexico.com so he won't be back until spring.

That training hill vid is Murchison Middle School off Far West Blvd. Training is pretty much making sure you can stay engaged, fly the glider, and land consistantly (on your feet). The wheels are there to prevent consequences if the basetube hits the ground on landing.

v- thanks for the vote of confidence. I have a feeling that not only will I be good at it but also enjoy it. I have a fear of situations with no easy out....being a parent is one of those...failure is not an option.

Moray- I have heard Funston is just costal soaring. I hoped to hear that Mt Tam was more than a sledder.

James - how high? I have gotten over 2k. I have seen guys in Texas get over 8k. At places like the Owens Valley (CA) or King MT (ID), guys get up to 18K (FAA limit).

Nobody asked, but FYI, way safer than paragliding.
 
Nate, do you ever get motion sickness when gliding? In the glider plane, I became sick to my stomach when we hit a thermal and started going round and round. It wasn't fun at that point.
 
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No, but turbulence and thermal don't bother me when flying in normal aircraft. I luckily don't get motion sickness - after several hours of hang gliding, it is like after several hours of tree work on a windy day - you can close your eyes and feel the gentle motion.

I quite enjoy the thermal bumps and air going up...what I don't like is the sink that is frequently next to a thermal. That sudden down air next to strong up air (800-1000fpm) feels a bit like going over the falls.
 
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now you are talking... GEAR!

If you really want to get up and out, you need a variometer. Most of them come with an altimeter... they beep when you are going up and tell you how fast you are going up to help you better center a thermal. Plus if you are several hundred/1000ft off the ground, it can be hard to tell if you are going up..you can feel the acceleration when you start going up but after that, it can be had to tell if you are going up at 100 ft/min or down at 100 ft/min.

variometer w/altimeter - $500
 
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Nah, I flew sans for quite a while until I felt it would be a help. At first, more is just more confusion until you get the fundamentals down.
 
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Ha! That is what I wonder too. The fatality rate is extremely low. Usually 0-2 per year. When the sport started, it was dangerous, peaking with over 50 US fatalities in 1978.

So low fatalities but how many crippled folk?
 
Great thread.
When I worked in the forests of switzerland back in 79-81, the guy I worked for was a dedicated Hangglider.
He got me started using his spare glider. We had a great launchspot from the top of mt. Stockhorn nearby.
There is cable lift that runs up to 2190 meter ( about 7200 feet), the local hang glider club had buildt a ramp off the mountainside, we could jump from. Straight out into 7000 feet of air............wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Flying in winter was especially beautiful (and cold) with the setting sun turning The three giant mountains of Berner oberland:
Eiger ( known for it's north face), Mönch and Jungfrau rosecoloured.
I don't glide any more, Denmark is too flat and ugly, but I still have the memorys from Schweiz.
 

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Nate, how do you know about Tam? Have you been there? Don't be too dismissive of Tam just because it is only soarable 10 or 15% of the time; I have seen hotshot mountain pilots there many times, and they certainly weren't there for the great soaring. Like Stig's photo, the place is drop-dead gorgeous.

Sometimes even a benign and predictable site like Tam will surprise you. I had heard vague rumors about a convergence that sometimes set up over the beach, but no one I knew had ever encountered it or knew much about it. Normally, once you were over the beach you were in flat air and you were going down, period. Until one special day when I lucked out.

The day was flat, there was no significant lift anywere, so with nothing better to do I headed to the beach earlier than usual, arriving with 600 feet to spare. Suddenly my vario went off! The lift was very weak, and seemed to be concentrated in a long band parallel to the beach and about 500 yards long. I milked it for all it was worth and 10 minutes later I was back at 1900 feet, level with launch! I thought I was dreaming.

I knew I would never experience this again, so I pointed my nose towards Japan and headed straight out to sea. The lift band extended over the water for several hundred yards, and I went about 1/4 mile losing only about 200 feet. When I came back to the beach, arriving with about 800 feet, the lift was gone. A magical door had opened for just a few minutes, and I was incredibly lucky to be there.
 
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I have family in Marin County so that is how I know about it.

I hope to fly in Austria in 09 when I am over there visiting the inlaws.
 
Very Cool Thread Award!

SOunds fantastic Nate. I've wanted to do t for years, but my better half has begged me not as its supposed to be so dangerous - reading your thread has made me realse its time to do it...
This is about 10 miles from me... I live on the island slightly further up the coast.
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So, when you're gliding can you carry a camera? Or are you too busy flying to take pics?
 
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That self pic of myself is just one I took while flying. Pulled the camera out, snapped a few and put it back.

If you are ridge soaring, close to a ridge in somewhat thermally conditions, your focus had better be on staying in the middle of the air. It is the edges that will hurt you.

If you are a few thousand up, snap away ;)
 
Nate, I saw this and thought of you...

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Ha! That thing must get hot! He doesn't stay prone long.

Nah, I like the free flying. Something special about no motor, just flying for hours.

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It's a tough question but somebody has to ask it, what's the procedure for the essential bodily function?
 
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