Groundie Pay

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The occasional, under the table help, sure you could pay extra for a good hand. Normal, day to day help, comp, bonuses and garnishments (grrr), adds up

I forgot about the garnishment thingy..........urgg
 
My guys work subcontract and I pay'em by the job or the day. Day rate is $150 for a regular 8 hour day. I pay $200 on urgent jobs like trees on houses but we end up working dawn till dark on those most times. I kick'em bonuses when I can and ask'em to take the hits with me too. I wish I could pay'em more or work'em more, they're still below the poverty threshold.
 
I have no idea how things are besides this area but a groundie doesn't usually get 40 hours per week in .Many hire out as day laborers or just about any other part time job to make ends meet .

I'll tell you it would be a tough way to make a living .
 
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To all thanks.... I'll be basing it on how well they can follow the good groundsman list. Hard work deserves good money, as said the obligatory stuff comp and taxes is the Pita.
Dave wish I was standing left in the avatar as your poster of G.f. would have been good to have in there. As to who has a rope that big in the house... someone who gives a key and falls in love..... Only you that I know of.
 
This thread makes me curious, any long standing crews working with you? On crane jobs, ours has been the same people since I hooked on about eight years ago, with one guy joining after me. Around $175 per day on up. Everyone is at least over forty, except when one of our guys brings his son. I very much like working with every one of them, lots of comaraderie and support. 2 to 5 people depending on the job, and not every day. No hassles at all except they eat up all my snacks....mucho mutual respect.
 
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This thread makes me curious, any long standing crews working with you? On crane jobs, ours has been the same people since I hooked on about eight years ago, with one guy joining after me. Around $175 per day on up. Everyone is at least over forty, except when one of our guys brings his son. I very much like working with every one of them, lots of comaraderie and support. 2 to 5 people depending on the job, and not every day. No hassles at all except they eat up all my snacks....lots of mutual respect.

No long standing crew. I have My girl who runs ropes no saws hence my need/want also I have another who works but does so in southern style and only on the as needed basis if I can coordinate with what he has going on. ben franklin a day more if the cash is good and or long day. realy looking for someone who wants to stick to it in the long haul.
 
I forgot to mention that one of my guys can climb well enough to do easy rigging so he's worth more... he definitely works in Southern style much like myself.
:/: I may have to use that... Southern Style Tree Care. :/:

I think you've got a tough list to fill, it's nearly identical to mine and here's what I've learned so far, if you pay the best of all their work sources you can get them when you need them.

It surprised me who turned out good vs. who didn't. Skinny little home schooled 22 YO figured out ropes right off and totally took to the exercise. Now he's got bigass shoulders and climbs. My other guy is 32 YO single dad, never settled down much, no set direction, just surviving (women accost him, it's amazing). He has scads of energy all the time, can't sit still, works as hard as anybody I've ever met and good on ropes. Nice guy too. Nothing stable about either of'em but they always show up when I call... almost, always.

If you want loyalty you have to give it and generally you have to give someone a reason to want to be loyal. It wouldn't necessarily have to be money but you're probably going to have to give more than a bill a day a few days a week for the long haul type.

I guess what I meant to say was, you're not likely to find a loyal, stable type that way
 
I haven't heard that term used before. I would assume it has something to do with the weather there, too hot and humid to work in the afternoon. Maybe he works 0600-1000 and is done for the day!
 
I'm thinking is available to work here and there as needed, not on a daily 40 plus hour routine. Likely under the table.
 
Yup, here is is anyway! We set our limit at -20C. That would include windchill, it often gets nice sfter lunch. I have a 7 day timer for the engine heater on the truck. Set it to fire up an hour before we show up and away we go!
 
What is "Southern Style"?:?

I was just referring to being laid back, working a reasonable pace, eating a good lunch and watching girls or politely talking trash about sex and women and occaisionally, farting. None of these jackrabbit, bitchy, no time for lunch type jobs.... although I do them when I have to. Cervi said it best, "I've got nothing to prove and all day to not prove it.".

Actually I just thought 'Southern Style Tree Care' had a nice ring to it. 8)

...so Brent, you're in Southern Canada, eh? ;)
 
.... since you started it .... when we work downtown (not all that often) ... it is important to take note of the attractive women .... wouldn't be running a safe show if not aware of surroundings.....
 
I agree completely, Carl. In the overall scheme of things, an extra $40-$50 per day shouldn't make or break the job unless you're really screwing up on your bids. If I find somebody with brains and a willingness to do this type of work then I'd rather over pay him as an incentive for him to happily show up the next time I call.

Hear hear!!!:thumbup:
 
Minimum wage here is just shy of 10 bucks/hr. I hired a 62 yr old ground guy that had an aversion to heights, started him at $15/hr 'cause he was always doing something and that was 5 yrs ago! Twenty bucks/hr would get you a loser here now. The better ones in the labor pool are workin' in the oil/gas patch the rest are just short of the welfare line.

I live in West Central Saskatchewan, near the Town of Eston. A couple hrs north of here you can work in the bush in the cold, its the wind that causes people to lose heat!
 
Some jobs....are easy......some, seeka nd destroy. Most are git in, git out.....no time to waste.
 
Yeah, hundred bucks a day won't buy much of anything.

Scott is my favorite asset labor wise so far. He writes his own check at the end of the day, usually 25-35% of the day's take. When I upgrade to a larger loader, I'm thinking his pay as a percentage will go down on average, but he'll make more per day.
 
Yeah, hundred bucks a day won't buy much of anything.

Scott is my favorite asset labor wise so far. He writes his own check at the end of the day, usually 25-35% of the day's take. When I upgrade to a larger loader, I'm thinking his pay as a percentage will go down on average, but he'll make more per day.

:/:I wish my boss let me write my own checks!!!:/:
 
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