Caitlyn Jenner

[Altissimus]

...the He to She and I worked at the same Ski Area though Bruce was Full Time Year Round w benefits at the time. Worst part was pre surgey transition. Live and work as a Woman for an entire YEAR while on hormone treatment and probably therapy....Really weirder than end result now that I look back.Corporate HR sent us instructions if you could believe it. Name tag change , Bathroom use , Pronoun use. Corp. wishes to avoid lawsuits.

 

[cory]

I say good luck to him/her.

+1

Mick, the Simpsons things was hilarious!!

 

[Jed]

I just want for everyone to imagine for one small fraction of a minute... the doctor... the scalpel... the absolute horror. The poor man lives out a maimed existence for the rest of his life.

 

[ruel]

Interesting article on the subject based on research not religion. I guess Johns Hopkins no longer provides re assignment surgery, viewing gender disphoria as a mental illness.

http://www.firstthings.com/article/2004/11/surgical-sex

 

[BlackSmith]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q-wFZre6ebI

 

[SouthSoundTree-]

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Gender ambiguity has been in the public eye for a long time.

 

[Maximalist]

I agree. We should hold her up to the Russians as a fine example of personal freedoms available in the US, make Ms. Jenner the US ambassador in Moscow.

It's pretty funny

 

[FireFighterZero]

I just want for everyone to imagine for one small fraction of a minute... the doctor... the scalpel... the absolute horror. The poor man lives out a maimed existence for the rest of his life.

I dont know, maybe he felt maimed from the beginning. Now maybe he feels healed.

 

[stig]

Yup.

 

[Thor's Hammer]

Caitlyn Jenner has not had a sex change as far as I'm aware. The surgery was cosmetic. Paul, I get pretty baked myself. I wasn't getting fired up at anyone... and rarely do.

 

[MasterBlaster]

Baked ain't so bad...

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[Bermy]

Apparently the tackle box is still there...hasn't gone for the full transition yet.
It's tough, whichever way you look at it.

 

[MasterBlaster]

Like this is the worst thing we need to worry about.

Please...

 

[vharrison]

Like this is the worst thing we need to worry about.

Please...

Exactly, which is part of my point. Who gives a hoot. Why does he/she think we care? Why is it so important for he/she to make this change so public? It is like he/she thinks he/she is so important that the world should care what he/she does. Frankly, I could care less.

 

[Limbrat]

Who gives a hoot. Frankly, I could care less.

Now, now. That's a very insensitive and politically incorrect thing to say V.

 

[Jed]

Exactly, which is part of my point. Who gives a hoot. Why does he/she think we care? Why is it so important for he/she to make this change so public? It is like he/she thinks he/she is so important that the world should care what he/she does. Frankly, I could care less.

Which is why you started this thread?

I think, if we're honest, we'll admit that we are fascinated with the pains/longings of another human being, because we all hurt and long. (Albeit, not in THAT way.)

As to Butch's comment... I remember years ago now, he wrote something about, "reinventing himself," (Albeit, not in THAT WAY!!). A subject which has always fascinated me... How much it may lie with us to simply choose different modes of behavior and existence in order to alter the life experience we are to have.

To me, the Jenner subject is interesting because most of us feel that in attempting to assume a different gender, one is banging up against an unalterable Something, whether the attempt is cosmetic or surgical. This is what BlackSmith's (Thanks for that link by the way.) and Reul's posts were all about. Although Sean... I wonder if Johns Hopkins would go so far as to assume Freud's view that all homosexuals were clinically insane, but perhaps treatable by the same methods used on other neurotics? If not, I don't see how they could justify their current position about gender change.

 

[squisher]

Seems bizarro to me. So without the marvels of modern medicine these people that need the switcheroo would just live a tortured life I guess? People have got to learn to love themselves for who they are, not always be searching for something else.

 

[Steve Mack]

People have got to learn to love themselves for who they are, not always be searching for something else.

Ha, have you checked out the family. It's like a Freud's nightmare, they'll all searching for something else. Keeps the tabloids going and it's not a bad money earner either.

 

[CurSedVoyce]

Hey look... something shiny..
Washington loves this crap.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.. oh look Bruce Jenner.

friggin' nonsense.

 

[Steve Mack]

"Washington loves this crap"

Yep, time to get a few things done while no one is looking. World disasters are good for that as well.

 

[SouthSoundTree-]

Matthew Shepard, et al. Possibly one reason for the publicity.


Freud was a nut. Mostly, from what I hear, he extrapolated to others what he pondered in his own mind about himself / self-analysis.

Maybe not a nut, but not dead-on, either.

 

[vharrison]

Which is why you started this thread?

To give us the opportunity to express our opinions.

 

[MasterBlaster]

I imagine he's being vocal about this in order to help others in the same situation.

 

[Raj]

Chopper Bob didn't make big headlines when he chopped off knob. Sorry, I've been holding it in too long.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-Edition-America-s-transgender-reporter.html

 

[BlackSmith]

Hey look... something shiny..
Washington loves this crap.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.. oh look Bruce Jenner.

friggin' nonsense.

+1