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Could you rephrase the statement, Sean? Be more specific. I'll do my best. I promise.

Oh, yeah. Residual old-growth and outlaws are still about in Navarro, but getting harder to tell from the second-growth trees. Which are surpassing in height. 270 feet in the North Fork Groves.

Not like it's gone forever, Mick. And by the way, natural events, fires, floods, pestilence and disease destroy more forest every year on the west coast than any logging ever has. Our latest, the Dixie Fire, over 900,000 acres and still going. Just 1 fire, Mick.

Yeah, Chris, they're still logging in Crescent City. Pecker Poles.

Oh, yeah. Damnation Creek. Nice hike. Steep, thousand-foot high bluffs right over the ocean. Hardly a day goes by without the fog misting through the trees and sunbeams (god rays) shining through. Truly magical place. I lived in Crescent City. 7 miles north of Damnation Summit. Back...