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Having good groundies to work under me was always a bane with the local tree services I worked for. I could write pages of my past experiences working with groundies that could not speak English. Let alone know the knots or how to let the work run. What those tree services thought they saved...

In the cities I would think your estimate on the turnover rate is correct. Though in more rural areas, like Ft. Bragg, available jobs are much less than the cities. Still the turnover rate was high. From my experience 1 in 10 would stick with it for longer than 6 years.

I was foreman on a line clearance crew for 12 years, plus 6 years right of way clearing. Turnover rate was about two greenies per year, on my crew alone. It was tough, but in those 18 years a few of those kids came out shining and become foremen themselves. After which I would relish when...