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I never did find out the brand of pole or what actually happened. He could t remember what happened. Pole may have snapped? The head definitely came off though and imagine the recoil of the head when the elastics are at full extension. Ouch, ya Mo-fo!

I used Zing it 2.2 and have a couple of lines, always in Falteimer cubes. Did have 3. It left one in a guy truck and it was never seen again. I reckon he liked it so much better than his stick wrapped line that he was willing to never speak to me again and keep the cube. As for the bigshot on...