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thanks guys. i will mos definitely get some pictures of the tree.

yah, not always asked for, but we Americans can be pretty paranoid about property. there are still laws on the books here that basically allow one to legally steal land from the owners. a hold over from the days of manifest destiny and land grabs.

i recently got permission from my neighbor to climb their awesome huge bay laurel. i offered to give them a signed liability waiver as the property owners. I'm wondering if any of you all have done similar and if anyone has a good waiver form for such a thing.