Same here. Talking about my area, where so-called professionals keep giving the HO what they want and not what the tree needs, it is not only sad. Sometimes it is frustrating.
Very nice tree anyway.
Crane tomorrow
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Very nice tree anyway.
woodworkingboy
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Sometimes I see that it isn't so much what the homeowner wants, but that they are only willing to pay the smallest amount, so they end up with people that will hack through a tree like they are blind. By the time the owner is able to more clearly assess the results..or maybe the damage is a better way to describe, the workers are gone.
I hear you on the fact that they want to spend less. Is hacking a cheap solution? Maybe in the immediate future, not through the years.
You should explain them what are the implications and the future costs of that action.
Problem is that many people just hack the trees not because they can be cheaper compared to others, but only because that is the only way they know. How can you sell a crown reduction if you don't even know what it is?
That is why I blame it on the companies and not on customers, most of the time.
You should explain them what are the implications and the future costs of that action.
Problem is that many people just hack the trees not because they can be cheaper compared to others, but only because that is the only way they know. How can you sell a crown reduction if you don't even know what it is?
That is why I blame it on the companies and not on customers, most of the time.
SkwerI
Treehouser
The big holes I see are where old cuts were made, usually very large cuts. The tree wasn't able to compartmentalize across the large wound and decay set in, extending down into the trunk.
This one in particular looks like an old topping cut (from decades ago). You can see another old cut down past your left knee on the other trunk.
This one in particular looks like an old topping cut (from decades ago). You can see another old cut down past your left knee on the other trunk.
Tucker943
Bamboo Plantation Owner
Thanks Jay. Do what I can. Tree guys are weird: love trees to death, and love to kill em.
Nice London Plane--I don't know if I'd get naked for it.
That's a sycamore boss.
MasterBlaster
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Aren't they both the same?
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I'm still learning, I'm amazed at what people can tell from pictures sometimes. My company has been taking care of these trees for a long time but thoes holes have been there even longer. while we were there the other climber was talking about thoes holes as well and the proper way to cut.
SkwerI
Treehouser
That's cool you have a good teacher. I wasn't trying to be critical, just discussing what I observed. Congrats on getting to climb such an awesome specimen. Sometimes I seem to sense a connection with the past when climbing a tree hundreds of years old.
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You weren't being critical, I thought it was informative. anyway it was a cool experience to climb these trees, the oak in the back of the house was gonna be cut down years ago to make a mast or something for a boat duuring the civil war. glad they didn't do it. My buddy is comming to visit in may from colorado, I'm gonna take him there to climb. I'll actually have time to enjoy the tree then.
Tucker943
Bamboo Plantation Owner
jefflovstrom@sb
TreeHouser
The LPs are a way nicer tree. their leaves are more green but alot of hairs. I think it is a hybrid.
LP is Platanus x hispanica (a hybrid, yes)
Sycamore is Acer pseudoplatanus....
I stand to be corrected, didn't actually get my book out!
I always remember the difference in that sycamore has red petioles and LP doesn't...at least the two I learned in the Uk this was true of (gawd that reads like bad grammar...)
Sycamore is Acer pseudoplatanus....
I stand to be corrected, didn't actually get my book out!
I always remember the difference in that sycamore has red petioles and LP doesn't...at least the two I learned in the Uk this was true of (gawd that reads like bad grammar...)
MasterBlaster
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Girl!
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pete mctree
Treehouser
They have it all messed up over the pond Fi. A sycamore IS a plains & what we call one is a maple.
Sycamore is Platanus occidentalis.
Acer pseudoplatanus is Sycamore maple, not to get mixed up with Acer Platanoides ( Norway Maple).
Don't know well London Plane variety. I did a little research on the web and they say it is a cultivar of Platanus Orientalis ( Platanus Acerifolia to be correct).
jefflovstrom@sb
TreeHouser
We have about 4 species. Arizona, California, American and London plane.
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ClimbingFool
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The London planetree there looks like Plantanus Acerifolia
There are also London Planetree, Plantanus Acerfolia (Varieties,Bloodgood and Yarwood).
Eastern Syc. Also know as Pantanus Occidentalis
And our California Syc. is Plantanus Racemosa
We pretty much have all these species in our neck of woods, but everyone just calls them a Damn Sycamore!.....
There are also London Planetree, Plantanus Acerfolia (Varieties,Bloodgood and Yarwood).
Eastern Syc. Also know as Pantanus Occidentalis
And our California Syc. is Plantanus Racemosa
We pretty much have all these species in our neck of woods, but everyone just calls them a Damn Sycamore!.....
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
woodworkingboy
TreeHouser
My experience with Sycamore is that it tends to warp a lot if you dry the wood for later use. That was one species in Cali, not sure if the tendency is across the board. I saw inlay out of Sycamore used very attractively in Great Britain.
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ClimbingFool
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Yes Jay, your right. It's hard to cure with out warping or checking. I've probably cut down a 100 thousand BF of sycamore( London Plane tree) over the years and 98 % went to fire wood. Not to many want to mill it.
Greg
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