E bay scam

[darkstar]

Item Description: 2007 Yamaha Grizzly 700 EPS
Case ID: ATV14R138L3D8

Dear Jerry Roberts,

Please inform us if you have received the invoice for payment. Once we receive the email and fax from you that will include the payment details as explained in the invoice, we will instruct the seller to start the shipping process. We will hold the payment until you send us your confirmation that you are satisfied with the product you received. As soon as we receive your confirmation we will release the payment to the seller. You will receive further details regarding the shipping process (courier information, tracking method, expected delivery date) after the payment confirmation.


*NOTE: It may occur that your e-mail doesn`t support HTML language and that is why you haven`t received the invoice from us. Please check your bulk/junk/spam/ messages, the invoice may have ended there because of the ever increasing filters of the e-mails nowdays.

Thank you for using eBay.



This was the final invoice i got from e bay ona semmingly legit item.
I called to confirm becasue it smelled bad.
It was a well known scam.
Beware fellows this guy was good.
So good the item ended and who knows who all he got.
He didnt get me but dang near

 

[PCTREE]

Wow, close call huh. Worst I got had was a dodge dually with cummins that was supposed to run great shift fine, Trans was missing 4th gear, drove home at 50 on highway. It was either get it or lose my $500 deposit and I figured I could go through Ebay and get some money back. Yeah right ebay sucks, they even removed my bad feedback from his account!!!!!

 

[woodworkingboy]

"that will include the payment details as explained in the invoice"

The wording there is a sure give away. I wonder how many people fall for this shat?

 

[darkstar]

So last night, i said i was ready to buy. Could they please send me a proper invoice without an attachement, i said i could not open their attachment, which i didnt.
You gotta see the BS reply i got this morniing.Ill go fetch it.

 

[darkstar]

Your invoice for eBay Motors purchase - 2007 Yamaha Grizzly 700 EPS‏
From: eBay (ebay@cl-invoice-ebay.com)
You may not know this sender.Mark as safe|Mark as unsafe
Sent: Tue 2/17/09 4:33 AM
To: jerryclimber@hotmail.com

1 attachment(s)
eBay-invo...pdf (140.5 KB)

eBay sent this message to Jerry Roberts .
Your registered name is included to show this message originated from eBay.

Your invoice for eBay Motors purchase - 2007 Yamaha Grizzly 700 EPS


Invoice for VPP Transaction Case ID ATV14R138L3D8 between Kelly Jones, as the Seller and Jerry Roberts , as the Buyer.
Please follow our instructions to complete the transaction safely.




Seller:

Name: Kelly Jones
Address: 1501 Main St.
Guntown, MS 38849
United States


Buyer

Name: Jerry Roberts
Address: 8906 HWY 27
Chattanooga, Tennessee 37405
United States




Transaction Details:


Case ID: ATV14R138L3D8
Date: 17.02.2009
Status: Payment Pending

Item Description: Like new condition [...] Never been involved into an accident, no damages, scratches or dents [...] Clear Title!
Price $3,500.00 US
Quantity Sold: 1
Insurance: Yes
Shipping: Check with the seller

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*Please check the details for an accurate delivery in order to avoid delays.


Payment must be submitted via Money Gram Money Transfer to an eBay Financing Center Agent in charge of this transaction. The eBay Financing Center Agent will secure the payment until the Buyer receives, inspects and accepts the vehicle. Or, if it will be the case, the Agent will refund the payment to the Buyer.

eBay Financing Center Agent*:

First Name: Ryan
Last Name: Pierce
Address:
City:
State:
Zip:
Country: United States
*The Money Gram Money Transfer will be sent using this name and address.

Payment:

Invoice #42423276074
Subtotal: $3,500.00 US
Shipping: $0.00 US
Sales Tax: $0.00 US
Total: $3,500.00 US

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Total Ballance: $3,500.00 US


How to make the payment

Find the nearest Money Gram office:

Send the payment using eBay Financing Center Agent`s name and address (found below) as payment details.
E-mail* Payment eBay Customer Support
the following payment information:
Case ID and Invoice #
Reference Number - 8 digits number found on the payment receipt
Sender`s Name and Address
Receiver`s Name and Address
Total Amount Sent
Fax* the Money Gram payment receipt to eBay Financing Center Department at:
888-852-5743
*We strongly recommend that you confirm the payment by both e-mail and fax.



Important Notice

For security reasons please DO NOT release the payment details to the Seller or any other unauthorized person.

 

[darkstar]

All that is displayed on a perfect mirror image of an e bay page.

 

[Frans]

from 'Best-of-craigslist'

Dear Mr. Scammer
I owe you a few apologies:
• I am sorry for responding and saying sure I am happy to engage in a bizarre business deal with you knowing full well it isn’t real.
• I am sorry you wasted time to print a horrible fake check.
• I am sorry you spent $4.90 UPS’ing it to me overnight.
• I am sorry for taking a few days to get back to you after I got the check and ask you for your phone number which you can’t give me. I knew that and still I emailed you for the phone number.
• I am sorry that I lied to you and said I could not find a western union office near me, making you look them up, emailing me a list and me telling you those two liquor stores are shut down.
• I am sorry that I lied to you about getting pissed at the western union office because they wanted $1.75 to cut a check and that I said that’s robbery and left in a huff. The truth is I never went there in the first place. Sorry for wasting your time that day.
• I’m sorry I lied the next day after you threaten to call the FBI and local police on me because I cashed your check and would not pay you. I knew you would not, but I wrote you an email begging you not to call the police and that I would pay you tomorrow after I cashed the check.
• I’m sorry that I lied the next day and said the western union office girl was rude to me so I left in anger, again delaying your money by another day.
• Im sorry I lied about sending the money to western union in your name vs the shipper so you could not pick it up. I realize this cost you a day or so.
• I am really sorry that I lied and said that the money order was at your western union, but off by 1 zip code making you drive 30 minutes to find out I am a liar.
• Your last email to me was justified. Obviously from your language you were pissed. The fact that as you "YELLED” and your grasp of the English language seemed to fade away like my Mom’s when she is livid showed me what a bad person I am.
• Your phone call from Africa? was upsetting because as you were trying to explain to me how to go down to western union and pay the $1.75 and you would pick up the fee, I realized how frustrated you were getting. I also lied about being hard of hearing and asking you to yell. Sorry.
All in all, I am sorry for sucking up your bandwidth. I realize that my actions probably sucked up 6-10 hours of your time and kept you from fleecing some gullible person in America.
Please forgive me. Go ahead and send me another forged check and I will send you my cash to your shipper. Please try me again. Even though I lied you to about 15 times I won’t do it again.
Your friendly computer person.
MHF

 

[darkstar]

Hahaha.
That takes the cake.
I thought this scam was pretty funny yall dont know the half of it , but i assure you i caused the scammer some grief, however it may have been small.Ps i just got another e mail and apprently ive been overbid on and item i didnt even win, which i never bid on and that supposedly im meant to already have bought.
Wonder if they even know they got had.

 

[TC3]

My BF listed a sprayer on Craig's list & got more than one "iffy" response. One potential buyer Fed-Ex'ed an unsigned check for $1900 (the sprayer was $450) & asked that we forward the remaining cash via Western Union to "another dealer".
The whole thing smelled so bad it was laughable, but it obviously works on a lot o' poor saps ???
The dead give away for me was the very first e-mail response from the scammer...
"Hello, How are you today ? I am very interested in the ________ you have for sale. Blahblahblah and some more long-winded crap. Have a blessed day. If I sound semi-religious, it's to lull you into a false sense that I am an upstanding citizen. Blahblahblah-s'mor-blah... Sincerely, Mr. Scamm-O-La"
Who the f**k writes an essay on why they want to make a purchase ???
Phhhhht. PT Barnum is alive and well.

 

[NeTree]

LMAO TC... ya hit the nail on the head.

 

[Al Smith]

If you are getting scammed in any way just report it to E-Bay . They are pretty good at getting to the bottom of things .

 

[Newfie]

I stopped using ebay when they became a publicly held company. They instantly went from being concerned about the users, to being concerned about the fees. I think their interest in making ebay a safe trading environment sucks. Its a major scamfest.

 

[MasterBlaster]

They charge too much.

 

[Al Smith]

It seems that since they've reformatted E-bay most everybody wants Pay Pal . Of course E-Bay owns Pay Pal so it might just be a mix up because most sellers I've dealt with accept money orders .

I'm a dinosaur I don't Pay Pal stuff nor put a credit card number on the internet . I just flat do not trust the system period .If I can't pay with a US postal money order I guess they don't need my business .

 

[MasterBlaster]

I'm a dinosaur I don't Pay Pal stuff nor put a credit card number on the internet . I just flat do not trust the system period .If I can't pay with a US postal money order I guess they don't need my business .

Sorry Al, but that's just plain silly. If you're really THAT worried all you have to do is ask your bank for a check card in a separate account that YOU control the amount of money that stays in it. THAT WAY you could do internet transactions fearlessly and perhaps after a couple hundred transactions w/o mishap you'd begin to see the light.

Money Orders are going the way of the CRT TV's and cassette players.

 

[NeTree]

What's a cassette player?

 

[hmm]

You know when something is not right, Craigslist, I posted a cabinet for sale and with in minutes received a note, "do you still have the item, I want it" and so one. I use a post office box for items and told them to sent the Postal money order or a Bank check, once i wrote that i would not take a personsl check, they vanished.

on Ebay - you really just have to forward that note to Ebay and they will confirm for you.

the scammers are trying to get smarter

 

[Frans]

all you have to do is ask your bank for a check card in a separate account that YOU control the amount of money that stays in it.

This is very good advice. I have an account like this. I use it for purchases on the internet or for trips I am taking.
To have your life savings cleaned out is just plain stupid.

 

[CurSedVoyce]

If you're really THAT worried all you have to do is ask your bank for a check card in a separate account that YOU control the amount of money that stays in it.

Most excellent... I use that method also .. Can't take what ain't there

Also for those that have sent postal money orders. I stopped doing that myself. I sent one in for product on a seemingly legit transaction. Guy claimed he never got it. Took 6 weeks to get the cashed check results from the post office after filing their form.. Dude was way past gone by then. Postal money orders for paying for stuff, not the best situation. Money orders from a bank or bank checks are faster... Debit card on a controlled account is truly the best option.

 

[darkstar]

Guys and gals , it got worse.
I awoke this morning with warnings on norten and stuff i cant even understand.
Anyhow none of my personal info was ever breached ,,, yet .
Ive alerted banks and amex .
It cost me about 5 hours.

 

[Al Smith]

I suppose it's everybodies personal preference how to conduct business and how to pay for a transaction .

On E-Bay I prefer a postal money order for the simple fact it involves the US gov .If a transaction is fraudulent and crosses state lines a whole lot of laws come into play . On several occasions I've had to explain that to a few sellers .

As far as credit cards,no problem if dealing with a bonefide legit company . I will use it over the phone but never over the internet .Too many people are knowledgeable enough about computers to manipulate things for me to be comfortable using a credit card ,even with a limit over the net .

Regarding personal transactions ,like face to face ,I prefer cash .