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I'd be interested to see a pic.

Just FYI on toothed cams on "arborist ropes", most arbo ropes(excluding static lines) are not designed with toothed cams in mind, and therefore, when a force is applied to them, they can cut through an arbro rope like butter. Rock climbing ropes and static lines are designed with toothed...

Correct B, their problem lied in the competition setting.

Yeah, I hear ya B, I guess my point is since companies like DMM and especially Petzl, see that their products are not just used in a work environment, but in a competition one as well, they are more likely and obligated to pay out for an accident like Jay's, compared to Kong, who is not as...

Also, ethics need not apply here I think. What it comes down to is a Kong product failed in a manner that was well within the products capabilities, and Kong refused to reimburse the guy who was using it. They flatly stated competition is not a suitable environment in which to use their...

I agree with Fred here, the problem is not in the faulty product, but in the actions taken after the fact a faulty product fails. I'd wager just about any other major tree gear provider, be it Petzl to DMM, would have backed up their obligations 100% and given Jay his dues without much hassal.

Their argument was a climbing competition is not the correct setting to use their products, and therefore had no reason to pay out money to Jay, even though pretty much everything we do in a climbing comp is just like what we do at work a lot of times.

Jay Butcher was in a climbing comp(MI I believe) when the ring he was using on his bridge broke during the work climb when he was roughly 10 to 12 feet off the ground and he took a fall. Ended up having like $20k in medical expenses and lost wages(couldn't climb for a few months I believe) and...

Its Kong, so I'll pass on it. If they say a climbing comp isn't the correct setting for their equipment, then I'm not trusting my life to it in any scenario. I am and forever will be a Kong hater because of that incident.