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The issue with mechanical is that you have to get production. One load a day doesn't cut it, because parts and fuel are so expensive. So the pressure is always on. A guy with a cable skidder, hand falling, getting a load every couple days can do just as well. If things are going smooth on the...

Nice brian. Tree laid to the left? two hinges and pulled it with hold wood to the right to bring it into the lay. 518 Cat cable, tough machines. Thanks for posting.

Going from a hand operation to mechanized has been quite a process. So much to learn, so much to work on mechanically. It is actually harder on the body than working on the ground, using your muscles, which I prefer. My outfit has had to scratch and crawl, gradually upgrading one piece of equip...

You still have to get a forwarder to the logs. Another expensive piece of equipment, and time consuming. We just tree length to the landing and process there, less mess in the woods is a big reason, especially on private ground. Landowners want a clean job. Sometimes I feel like a landscaper...

Good job, very professional. Thanks for posting.

Cool. The Treefarmers are popular in the Eastern U.S. They seem to have a very good reputation. Post a pic. if you get it. Does it have a Cummins?

Good job. That isn't a mess at all. Once you get done it will heal quickly, no one will even know that you were three 12 months from now hey?. Just bought a 535 Cat skidder, used of course, for skidding larger bundles, 123" grapples, with extensions. Will post a photo. The old 518 wasn't keeping...

You are definitely right on that score. We also have a heck of a time getting trucks, as we only have one log truck. All the big rigs went to North Dakota.

Yes Holmen, I know of a number of guys that have sold their mechanical sides and just kept a skidder and hand fall. One of the reasons for that though I suspect is that the payments got to be too much for them. The way I have done this business is save until I could make the next step up in...

Yes things have certainly changed. I love falling timber and have done about every kind of tree you could imagine from 6' bars on down. But now, with all the fuels reduction work we do it would be very difficult to get much done without our Timbco. All those little trees drive me NUTS! Getting...

Maybe..I don't know.. Arborists loggers at heart.. or loggers Arborists at heart.. making use of a resource regardless of your specialty. Learning both skills ..interacting.

Part of the problem is that the Canadian Govt. subsidises the timber industry. If you look at industry publications all the loggers in Can. are running either brand new or near new equipment. Only the biggest or oldest outfits in the U.S. can do that and there isn't very many of them.

Kind of interesting fact: the U.S. produces more lumber than Canada. I was very surprised to learn this. As a logger the more worldwide demand for logs the more likely it is that we can make a profit because of increased demand. The sawmill situation is sad though. A lot of small towns have lost...

Joel, why don't you tell us something about your operation? We need more activity here. You aren't too far from my neck of the woods. Like only 10 hrs or so. What kind of wood are you dealing with? How has the oil boom affected your business? Are there any mills around there? Thanks Pat

Well there will be a lot of satisfaction in getting your own wood. You just need a sawmill. Doesn't have to be fancy to make timbers. Like a small Woodmizer. I know others who have built their own timber frame homes from the trees on their land, milling the beams themselves. Beautiful!

Dave I think that you are going to make a heck of a logger. Keep chugging,. Pat

I hear you Dave. We are cutting and skidding with early spring conditions. At least we still have snow and freezing temps.. My partner runs the Timbco fellerbuncher while I skid with the 5H or the Cat 518 skidder. Then we process with the Komotsu with a Log mMax 7000. It took years to get to...

He was obviously doing it for a video, but sloppy work and that is how you get killed. We used to leave our saws out in the brush on a regular basis because of the amount of gear we were packing( jacks, tree climbing gear, chockers etc.) and the distance and elevation just to get out of there...

Butch you are awesome. That probably sounds repetitious to you, but for someone like me sitting out here 100 miles from the nearest bar..... and to ask and receive, just like that.... I don't know what else to say. THANK YOU!

Perhaps it should have it's own forum heading like "Gear" Forum, "Chainsaw" Forum Tree Care etc.