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I ain't sayin' a word! :silent:

Exactly my point. With the D rings so close together and the bridge so long, what exactly does it do other than extend your hitch out an extra 12"? It obviously doesn't slide back and forth more than an inch or so, and 1" of slide a foot away from your D rings isn't really adding any advantage...

In my opinion, all that crap just pushes your hitch too far out of reach. I would just hook my carabiners directly to the gold rings and eliminate all that extra gadgetry. And bring my hitch about 12" closer to my hands so I'm not stretching out to reach it all the time.

The truth is it takes a lot of time to set up those fancy setups, and "ain't nobody got time fo dat". A more likely scenario is that you need help getting out on a difficult limb and the lowering line is in a nice spot, so you use it as a secondary support to help you get out there. You use...

Know how to use two systems but don't fret it much. In 25 years of climbing I may have used two systems twice. It's easier and more efficient to just use your primary system more efficiently and your lanyard to traverse those awkward spots. It isn't a method you will use very often, if at all...

I wasn't trying to scoop you, Burnham. But I think the different descriptions help clarify the point we both are trying to make. :thumbup:

The first thing you have to do is examine what causes the rope to twist. In my experimenting with different hitches and friction savers, I determined that it was my hitch introducing twist into the system. If you have your wraps and braids balanced on your VT then you can greatly reduce the...