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There's the magic...some few of us need no time, care, nor constancy to find level. And unlike Stephen, I cannot place any ability to "see" level on work experience. I was born with it, and it has been both a gift and bane from my first awareness. Some years back, Stig in a pm to me posited...

I still don't get all this noise about how to level a saw bar. I am sorry. But forever in all aspects of my life, for me, my eye is a dead on laser accurate level. Does not matter the setting, be it 120 percent sidehill or in my living room. I am quite unsettled by a picture frame off...

There are more nuggets of wisdom sitting here and there on this website than can be imagined. Most of them are not mine ;).

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That's how I know the saw didn't have wrapped handles, duh :D.

Looks like that faller has a bad back...no bending over for him :). We also can tell that he doesn't have wrap handles :D.

Jed, you do have a pair of real dogs, right? Not some lame rinky dink little inside set only? :evil: :lol:

Another way to put it might be simpler than what I posted before...just make sure you are not lifting the rear handle any as you push the bar through the back cut. And I completely disagree with forestryworks on the use of dogs...I set them first and pivot on them quite alot.

Jed, you may not be making any mistake in starting level. It could be improper technique in powering the saw through the back cut. It's very easy to push the bar off line as the kerf progresses if you are applying uneven pressure to the handles. Look at that aspect of how you are moving...

Well said, young man.

I don't know how, Jed. To me level is level, whether you're standing in the kitchen or on the side of a 120% slope. I don't understand not being able to see that the bar is level. Maybe don't think about or look so hard at the ground, ignore that and just concentrate on the saw and the tree...