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I was mistaken 40kn only applies for TR general use Carabiners. 25 kn would indeed be adequate for TR General use for ascenders and descent control device (when attached with a 40kn biner): NFPA 1983 (2012) Descent Control Device Performance Requirements: Escape “E” 3σ MBS of not less...

Yeah I saw that but I can't personally buy another one right now but I would like to be able to tell others if the 40kn version will be available into the future. I personally think the HH2 would be preferable but I can't justify replacing my HH. It will likely last a long, long time. It's...

Will the 40 KN version still be available? I know when I take mine out and have show and tell with some of the Tech Rescuers I train with I can see the wheels start turning in their mind. For wilderness rescue NFPA isn't a factor but having a 40KN version would be good.

This may have been discussed already but, I see the HH2 is 25KN vs the 40KN of the original HH. Is there a reason for the reduced rating other than shaving weight and size? I was really hoping to see an NFPA 1983 version eventually.

I prefer a big ring on my bridge by far.

I replaced my climbing line at the same time as I got a HH, I got 150 ft of Vortex and have been loving it. The HRC -6 wraps a little loose and the vortex seem to be stable and predictable thus far but I still need to put a lot more hours on it to be sure. The Ice was a little jumpy descending...

Thanks for the info PCTree. I really look forward to climbing on the HH a lot more in the future. Good Job!

So I recently got a HH and am pretty impressed. I used a fairly loose 6 wrap and it worked great with both HRC and Ice. But I'm only 150- 160 geared up. Any one have any idea why an oval biner is necessary? I'd like to have a little more room to the sides of my HH for a tether made of Ice...