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Just as a statement of fact that list shows primarily southern states and midwestern states which are in effect so called right to work states .Have been and likely always will be . Historically the more northern states in the more highly industrialized areas do have some union influence...

New info on the state level . You're going to just love this . Alabama, Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Utah, and Virginia No Prevailing Wage Law

:what: It has nothing to do with union scale .They take the average which of course they lie about to suit whatever meets their purpose . While I'm on my soap box I'd guess that a majority of employers that do bid work under prevailing wage conditions if truth were known don't pay it anyway ...

Well it would take you 4 hours to get here for one .3 hour job than 4 hours to get back .You'd spend half of it in gas money .I'm a nice guy but I'm not nice enough to pay travel time from Cleveland to Lima . Then say it's a nice spring day ,the birds are chirping the top is scattered all over...

Oh I'm not arguing that fact .As a matter of fact I've got a big ash I'd gladly pay 50 an hour to have someone blow the top out of .Tom claims he has a guy but sometimes what is said and what actually happens aren't one in the same . I can put the big SOB on the ground but it sure would simplfy...

Well the plumber or electrician unless he owns the company will not be making 50 plus an hour.Fact speaking non union in this area might be damned lucky to make 15 -18 .Union will pay more of course but that work is more geared towards industrial and not residential types of work .It takes a...

I'm not in the tree biz but I've heard of a couple hot shot climbers that get 50 plus an hour .From what was said about them worth every penny of what they get payed .Probabley that's about double of the usual pay in this area for a climber and most don't get that much .Gotta remember where...

I don't know about all that but that badger looks like a mean hombre not to be screwed with .

FWIW the line clearance guys out of Detroit are part of the IBEW and most likely do fairly well considering .Probabley not as high as a class a lineman but certainly more than a groundie . Then again you're talking union scale and I'm probabley the only one on this forum that would affect even...

You probabley hit the nail on the head .WCTFL where ever he ran off to once worked for some high class outfit in South Carolina I believe .It payed more than tree work in Columbus Ohio where he came from which pays more than it does in these parts. I can't remember that guy from NYC but he made...