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I think if anybody says that they think about doing it themselves, I might politely ask their plan of attack.

I find a polite way is to explain to them that now, knowing what they want (after spending X amount of time with them), I can put some numbers together to figure out what this complex situation will take to do the job safely and to Specs we've decided upon. I'll knock on the door when I've put...

I hear you there, Ray. Middle class, and just send a bill when you're done doing what you need to do rich types.

Some people's cultural back ground points to this. Big a little high, come down, they feel like they got a good prices, and knocked you down. Sorta like if you know they will want a little bush or two whacked while doing the trees. You decide if you want to play. I don't run up against...