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Ok so I am back to trying out the FS thing. As I said before I made some of the conduit ones, but ended up getting hit in the face and always worried about tearing into the inside of the metal bending it to tight on a small TIP. Saw the U-saver videos on the Buzz...

I FINALLY tested the conduit one yesterday. It worked great! it was super smooth, no damage or wear on the rope,. No damage to the FS itself. An all around success I would say. Installation and removal was a breeze, I used the method mentioned in this thread for setting the leather ones with a...

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Ok. Here are some pictures of one of the conduit ones I made. 1" Metallic Sealtight 1" Ferrule New England Fly with hand spliced tighteye. Standard Quicklink for retrieval

I paid $60 for 8 connectors and 20' of the conduit. The connectors were 32$ i think.. Had I bought the ferrules and waited for them to come in it would have been considerably cheaper. I think they are only a buck a piece. Either way I have material to make 4 of them of almost any size, so $15 a...

I made some conduit ones! Ill get pictures later today if I can. I used 1" metallic seal tight and the connectors Pigwot showed. The piece you need is actually called a 'ferrule' and can be bought separate of the connectors (through electric supply houses), neat enough, it just screws on to...

I just tie a slippery figure eight. line through ring, twist, bight wraps around and tightens easy peasy. never had a problem even once. infact ive broken a few throwlines without the knot slipping.

Pete, I like the false crotch picture that is cool, I don't understand the difference between the bowline pictured and a standard double bowline though... As far as rigging with the FS I was thinking about trim jobs where you only remove a single lead or something and where you wouldn't want...

That is along the lines of what i was thinking, that the impact of rigging would break them and cause sharp edges to fome possibly.

Anyone use a sleeve style FS for lowering limbs? Most small trim jobs i do i don't seem to find the time to set a block for the work line, but the conduit sleeve seems easy enough to set and retrieve that it would be worth the wear and tear savings. Thoughts?

I really like the homemade conduit savers!!

No sharp edges on that huh? Pretty nice looking from here... is there any kind of raied lip that the rope pressures against on the end of the connector? We used sealtight every day in the tower biz...I dont know why i never thought of that...

Your right Eric, if you put enough force on the system to break the dyneema AND IT DIDNT BREAK your back would, with or without a rope in the system. Even the lowest stretch arb ropes are going to dissipate enough force that the dyneema wont break; again...quickdraws. It all comes down to force...

:D Ok... so ill be honest, i sold my stock in the dyneema manufacturing company yesterday, so im not selling anything to anyone. Lets leave it at this, if I use an endless loop I wont use dyneema so you dont have to worry about me Stephen, AND I will thank you for looking out for me and only...

I see your concern as valid, and since i havent bought the dyneema, maybe i would buy a different sling as dyneems is primarily used because of its light weight and abrasion resistance. But it is import to realize that there was no rope in that system. If you tested any friction saver or rigging...

Sure, but that is talking about factor 2 falls on a completely static system. Fall factor is determined by dividing the distance of a fall into the amount of rope in a system. ie you tie into a branch pay out 20' of rope and let go, falling 20' on 20' of rope = factor 1 fall. It is nearly...

Man i read this like 3 times envisioning a ring nd ring going over the top of the tree with the rope through it and the rope hanging on the branch with the rings around it... im like this makes no sense, so i reread it again and then went back to your first post... DUH. Thanks for the tip, that...

Theoretically, doesnt the rope take the shock load? we use dyneema for anchors all the time in a rock setting, but then the rope is higher stretch? Thats another thread though i guess... Thanks for the pic of the home made rig, that helps alot.

http://www.sherrilltree.com/s.nl?sc=11&category=2004&it=A&id=9973&fromsla=T&whence= Can this be set from the ground? Can the leather ones be set from the ground?

So if i take one of these @ 48" and $12 from treestuff.com https://www.treestuff.com/store/catalog.asp?category_id=21&item=1860# Girth hitch it to a small steel ring on one side $10 https://www.treestuff.com/store/catalog.asp?category_id=303&item=882 Run the sling through 4' of clear plastic...