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Paul, the kit I'm dissing is the first one you posted...the one that includes a scalpel. Toss that one. The other one, I dunno about.

Since that's an integral part of the technique that Paul's kit advocates, I figure it's all of a single piece. But you are right, if you ignore the instructions included, leave out the cutting, don't bother with the suction, then it's not gonna make things worse. But at that point I can't see...

But the cutting isn't.

Paul, I think the current thinking by ER physicians is that that type of treatment for snake bite does more harm than good.

Poor pooch!

The one I just dealt with wasn't that big at all, between a softball and a football. Your point about spray penetrating may well be valid...but they only come in and out one place...just keep spraying there until no more exit, is what I have done. I use the sort of instant knockdown stuff...

Why on earth snip the nest out? I sprayed the bejeezus out of one in a small tree by my creek early on a cool morning last week. Dead, done, no problem.

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