It's all in the way you ascend. I've been using a Pantin strapped over my rt spur and using an open-air SRT ascent system for years and it worked ok. Who the hell wants to flipline up a 5' dbh tree when you can SRT? I just had a local welder weld and bolt a Pantin to my spur and it's awesome...
I haven't had a chance to read through the 9 pages on this thread yet, so I'm not sure if anyone has posted these climbers yet.
http://www.bartlettman.com/NEW-HOOK-N-GRAB-ASCENDER_p_1409.html
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