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Ok mental picture of Bambi's family suing the Parks Service/Department :laughing3::laughing3:

One could also argue that old age is both cause and condition or effect.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senescence To borrow Stumpers well chosen word from prior post... Well chosen word sir :)

I do find Live Oak interesting in this respect. The original tree (above ground) may die out completely, yet new growth will come from the root ball (what part may survive) and start a new set of trees from the original. Now whether or not the tree died of old age ??? I doubt it, probably more...