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I’m pretty far from a self loader. Lumber prices being down and fuel being up kinda kills it. Parbuckle, maybe forklift or fork loader (also loading cars) or rig winch off trees ala steam donkey days.

Power co and beetle kill, removal. Bigger than it looks. 3’ dbh. I topped out the lift and ended up thru wedging a pretty big top off (red). I really like that narrow alum wedge and 4lb estwing fireside friend. Rigged and lowered most of the right stem off the center. Another chunk off...

https://www.quantamagazine.org/what-physical-life-force-turns-biologys-wheels-20260420/

Pics would be interesting, maybe good for some ideas.

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Mitigation work is mitigation work, regardless of how the situation was created. Predictable outcomes are usually fairly easy to come by, even if some of those outcomes are less favorable. When selling the job, those projected outcomes should be reviewed for acceptability... and part of that...

So a guy I did a job for a month or so ago decided to do some tree work himself and had made a mess. First time dealing with something like this, obviously gonna make him sign something saying I’m not gonna be held Liable since I’m walking into a mess trying to fix it. Currently one tree is...

Mans gonna need a chiropractor on speed dial in a year or two.

I haven't practically climbed for production in years, but I much prefer a high tie in. Based on that, I'd usually climb to the top, set my false crotch, then come down and go to work. The Wraptor made that much easier. These days if we can't get it with the telehandler, we have a 92' lift...

My neighbor Charlie, who has COPD, said that while salvage logging St. Helens, they put filters on everything but the people.

If you're looking to have a mill out there, have you looked into custom mill orders for beams or such for non-permitted use/ nongraded lumber? Nextdoor can be useful, along with Marketplace. Cedar fence boards go quickly. My neighbor suggests modern fir fencing and modern cedar are similar.

A self-loader is fast and efficient. If you have the means to load, and there is an unloading option, that's something. How long are you aiming for? How to load?

I climb both. An inability to set a throw line and rope- climb is a major liability IMO. Lots of people spur trees. I can spot the wounds years later. Some trees don't care much. Others do. Wraptoring for 15+ years and ropewalking for similar amounts.

Up the rope when I climb but if the tree allows climb the tree. Last tree I climbed was a crabapple to about 8’ tied in a nice comfy perch and could reach the whole canopy with a 12’ Silky.

I do what needs to be done. Pruning I use a throw line and SRT with base anchor. Dismantles, I spike but sometimes if I need to set rigging I will access with SRT as it is quicker and then at the top can set an anchor, rigging points and then decent to start the works. If I can just spike up...

I always climb the tree, in fairness I don’t really know any other method.

Discussed a little with Northman Yes Rough. The LRR trees are pretty small, not likely mill size, or maybe barely squeak in. The stuff I might thin will be quite small. I’m thinking about high grading a few roughly 24” ish DBH trees out to offset costs…or just under whatever the max dia the...

Have you looked at who's buying? Have you investigated a Log Price sheet? Do you have any dimensions on the trees? How will the logs get moved to a log deck for a self- loader?