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If Angio hold themselves up with tension, it would explain their increased propensity to ‘chair. Getting to the pith would help, the rings are 90° to the cuts there and less likely to separate.

I think back cut first is usually used for back leaners. It would seem you would want to make a pretty deep back cut first, working the wedges in, so as not to lose any lift or pick up any more back lean. More leverage before and after the face is in.

Coffee with eggnog, Christmas music, listening to the rain through the screen door. Beaver-tooth 32”. The one on the right is grade A, the rest are utility grade.

Yes. Makes sense!

IDK that the order would help. No wedges needed with a head leaner.

I avoid a facecut when knocking off leaning, short logs in barberchair- prone trees. I cut them like bucking to avoid a split. Cut around the log on 4 'sides' leaving a center square of holding wood. Cut the holding wood square from tension toward compression. No splitting and they slide off...

Reread the thread. MB had a way about him, he is missed. And where the heck is Gerry?

looks like a thing i should look into, basically i live in a giant sand-pit…

Seems very relevant to another rabbit trail: back cut (and wedges) first.

Yes looks funny. Basically I went through as far as I could with a 572. Then did a gob on both sides and one in front of me so I could slide the saw further and reach the back wood. The saw was razor sharp, the wood was easy cutting, it’s not something I’ve done before, I just was looking for...

@SeanKroll I should have continued my trees further up. A rare occurrence, having trouble articulating my thoughts on it. Almost more like a gut feeling. Something about the rigid part of a bow where the handle is, and how if one pulled it backwards it would probably break (split between...

Haha, yeah, everyone claiming no face. It has had a resurgence lately.

You are welcome, my friend.

I'm still unclear what is being visually represented here.

I like that nugget for teaching : "The 80+/10- rule"

I believe around 7800#