Wildlife reintroduction in PNW , Grizzly Bear ... really ?

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what's in a name ? As Treepeoples we all appreciate Latin botanical being quite descriptive in many cases , a friend on Ski Patrol has the name "Captain Cocktail" that's right Captain ... of ALL Cocktails. My point is you don't get names for nothing , the guy from J Geils Band is called "Magic Dick" so ... Anywho that big old Grizzly Bear has HORRIBLE in it's name. HORRIBLE so ,
 
Reminds me of a discussion I had with a guy on the Danish Woodturner's forum about Cyanoacrylate glue.

He figured that because it had Cyano in it's name, and cyanide was an ingredient in Cyclone B gas ( Used by ol' Adolph to gas jews, for those ignorant of history) it must be pure poison.

I countered with the fact that since Hydrocyanide, a deadly poison, shares Hydro with water, we should probably stop drinking that.

W.C. Fields: " I don't drink water, fish frig in it"

My point is: Because someone back in the dark ages, before the .454 Casull was invented, gave the bear the Ursus horribilis moniker, shouldn't much matter today.

Except to Butch, who isn't with us any more.

I have hitchhiked through Canada to Alaska, wilderness camping the whole way up and down.
Hiked around Mt. Denali for 2 weeks, saw loads of Grizz.
At no time were they anything but a nuisance, because of the precautions, one has to take when cooking and storing food.
As impossible to believe as I'm sure it is for you Americans, I was unarmed the whole time.

I've lived in a tent in lots of places with big predators and except for a leopard , that raided a Hyrax colony right outside our tent at night in the Negev desert and made such an unbeliveable racket, that we didn't get any sleep, none of then have ever bothered me or been remotely the threat humans present.
 
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Introduction or reintroduction of a top predator where there pretty much isn't one , seems food supply for U.H. is ridiculously easy and abundant so ,
 
stikine said:
You guys have no idea... period . Been living with Brown bears for over 37 years. Most of you haven't even ever seen one, so why do you even think you have an opinion on the matter?
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Because this is the internet?

Would someone who has been living with Brown Bears for 74 years be twice the expert you feel you are?

If you have seen a Polar Bear but I have seen two,should you listen to me twice as intently?
 
Someone who has lived with the deadly Kea and survived, should certainly be considered an expert in such matters.
 
stig said:
Someone who has lived with the deadly Kea and survived, should certainly be considered an expert in such matters.
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As much as someone who has logged the mountainous old growth forests of Denmark?

I never really was to worried about Brown Bears,I spent 5 years living in Country that had Brownies and Blackies. I made all the stupid mistakes that a young guy would do,walked up to a gut pile where I had shot a deer prior and spooked a Blackie off it. Threw a rock at a Brown Bear when I was drunk,because I thought it was a Bolder in the poor light and practically moon walked backwards scared sober.

Anyhow I dont think any New Zealander have become the victim of Brown Bears,so I should have considered that all along.
 
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Another risk none of the dudes here mentioned , Menstruation .... don't have any numbers or research but it is known camping in Grizzly country while having a period is very risky
 
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