Second tie-in on removals
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pantheraba
More biners!!!
Burnham
Woods walker
Yup.
sotc
Dormant hero!!
Either, depends on if I was using an adjustable in the tree already. I'm kinda lazy about pulling things up
MasterBlaster
Administrator Emeritus
Burnham
Woods walker
That'll sure keep you from falling if you cut your lanyard, but doesn't offer any rappel opprtunity, does it Butch?
emr
Cheesehead Treehouser
Adjustable, or a pulley saver. So far I am not totally sold on the pulley saver. It's nice to work off of but it's not real easy to retrieve.
MasterBlaster
Administrator Emeritus
Yea, B - I guess I missed the question...
Burnham
Woods walker
I don't think you did, Butch...the question was only what you use for second tie-in, no specification that it be rappel capable...I just was making an observation.
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Rborist1
Guest
A running bowline on your climb line works too. You just need a long tail left (past the knot) in order to shake it loose later.
Burnham
Woods walker
Your English is just fine 
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Perhaps safer, yes, for that reason.
.Perhaps safer, yes, for that reason.
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
I use an adjustable friction saver as stated before... I often use this instead (for times I don't take one up, large canopy TDs come to mind).
And sometimes I just girth hitch the tree and use a set up like Burnam showed me at the Wraptor WCGTG. Biner with prussic on the leg strap. Not retrievable, but in an emergency while chunking a spar.. who cares? Rap out... get help. Leave rope. I use this more if I have to just gaff back down the stem after each chunk. Flip both lines down with me together.
I use my fig 8 instead of a rack like he let me try. Allows for one handed decent as well.
And sometimes I just girth hitch the tree and use a set up like Burnam showed me at the Wraptor WCGTG. Biner with prussic on the leg strap. Not retrievable, but in an emergency while chunking a spar.. who cares? Rap out... get help. Leave rope. I use this more if I have to just gaff back down the stem after each chunk. Flip both lines down with me together.
I use my fig 8 instead of a rack like he let me try. Allows for one handed decent as well.
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Burnham
Woods walker
I recall that first setup, Stephen...the retreivable one. That's cool...I need to remember that.
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
Works slick.. Just remember to rope it right or you get a girth hitch sorta 
And enough rope of course.
And enough rope of course.
Burnham
Woods walker
Yeah..three times height.
CurSedVoyce
California Hillbilly
Yessir.... Which usually is not an issue when working down a stem for me.. I usually go 2X my top TIP in rope length as typical Ddrt and by the time I can fell a stem, 3X TIP height is pretty standard by that time.
Each situation warrants a solution that can vary. Bag O tricks needs be well stocked
Each situation warrants a solution that can vary. Bag O tricks needs be well stocked
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oscar4883
Guest
AFC if I am going to be on the spar a good bit. If only a few cuts then I just choke my climb line.
canadiantreeman
TreeHouser
I like the bowline with the Gri-Gri. After spending a half day working rescues off of the various climbing systems, the Gri-Gri seemed easiest. But if you were planning a long rap off the spar on a job in which you had room to drop a big pole, then the AFS is great.
That said, this was my first rescue course, I'm sure Burnham has more experience with the various systems and rescue methods.
That said, this was my first rescue course, I'm sure Burnham has more experience with the various systems and rescue methods.
SouthSoundTree
Treehouser
I like a running bowline with gri gri, or now Rope Wrench. I'll also use an adjustable friction saver. I like fall arrest on a spar. I more much faster when I don't have the concern about sliding down the stem. I gaff in lightly, too. Easy in, easy out.
Reddog
TreeHouser
Is there a way to tie in with a SRT system that is self recoverable from the ground on a takedown?
As I have looked at SRT, take downs are one place I do not see an advantage other than faster to get into the tree. Am I missing some thing?
As I have looked at SRT, take downs are one place I do not see an advantage other than faster to get into the tree. Am I missing some thing?
SouthSoundTree
Treehouser
When you're ready for your final descent, you can either send your working end through a crotch and down for a base tie-off, or pull up your tail to tie to your RBline in order to uncinch it after descent.
rangerdanger
TreeHouser
I used to use a adjustable FS, but since I switched to SRT, just tie a running bowline. If I want to retrieve it, I either tie a running bowline with a long tail, or just clip the tail of my rope to it and uncinch it that way.
