Ropetek Hitch Hiker

[Husabud]

I still want one! New or old ill make it work.

 

[chris_girard]

Wow Chris did you get my package already???

No Paul, my friend had some extra beeline that he gave me to try out.

 

[bonner1040]

so whats the asking price again?

 

[rangerdanger]

Put me down for one as well man.

 

[woodworkingboy]

I fear pre-orders surpass available stock.

 

[Burnham]

Pre-payments may be wise .

 

[PCTREE]

OK so who knows what these knots are????

http://youtu.be/a8MwbvOyPXU

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[Burnham]

Not a prusik of any variety...that's a 5 over 1 (5 wrap:1 braid) VT.

 

[Burnham]

I dunno about the stopper, gotta think on it.

I agree, not a double overhand, for sure.

 

[chris_girard]

Not a prusik of any variety...that's a 5 over 1 (5 wrap:1 braid) VT.

Yup, that's what I call it as well, and the top wrap will usually collapse and make a 4 over 2 VT.

 

[Burnham]

Looking at the stopper knot again...may be a double overhand that you haven't collapsed completely. I need to dig out a piece of rope...damn this hip and the distance to the shed .

 

[Burnham]

Found a piece of cord in the junk drawer...I think it is a double overhand, after all. Just not pushed over into the normal form, which looks rather like a scaffold knot.

 

[Jack]

I agree, B ... save you the trip. I tied it and you're right it is a double overhand that hasn't been "collapsed completely." It's an undressed {naked} double overhand.

 

[Burnham]

Yup, that's what I call it as well, and the top wrap will usually collapse and make a 4 over 2 VT.

For that matter, any VT will usually drop the top wrap into an additional braid when loaded, no?

 

[Burnham]

I agree, B ... save you the trip. I tied it and you're right it is a double overhand that hasn't been "collapsed completely." It's an undressed double overhand.

Thanks, Jack.

 

[PCTREE]

B it is not a double stopper, as the tail exits at 90 degrees from standing end . Also I dont buy the hitch being a VT as you dont cross over the rope below the wraps just go straight to the dog bone. Im thinking maybe there isnt a name for it as it is specific to the HH application. Maybe a HH stopper and a HH hitch.....

 

[chris_girard]

Maybe a HH stopper and a HH hitch.....

I like it Paul!

 

[Burnham]

I disagree on both counts, Paul. But you can call them whatever you wish .

If you go ahead and properly dress your stopper knot, it will exit parallel to the line. And you're crossing over, that is braiding, to get to the other end of the dog bone.

 

[bonner1040]

I agree about the 5-1vt . The stopper looks like a double fishermans aka grapevine knot.

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[Burnham]

Grapevine/fishermans/scaffold has to capture something inside the loop at the termination end. This stopper does not.

 

[bonner1040]

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[brendonv]

Double overhand.

Never saw the other thing!

 

[Burnham]

Yup, that's a double overhand, Nick.

 

[pantheraba]

This is a perfect example of what Jerry talked about in another thread about information dissemination...it is instructive to be able to watch y'all ponder and dissect a topic (knots here) verbally and then with a flow of pictures...all that got started from a video. Very cool.

 

[DMc]

... Im thinking maybe there isnt a name for it as it is specific to the HH application. Maybe a HH stopper and a HH hitch.....

Paul, the hitch you are using most closely resembles a Klemheist and should perform in a similar manner. Because the tails are short and trapped by the dogbone and also not tucked like most VT's it should hold its shape and be resistant to forming a tresse braid. I like it. I have no clue what to call the stopper knot but I believe knots should be called by their dressed and finished shape in use not by the twist and turns of their forming.

Dave

http://www.animatedknots.com/klemheist/index.php