wiley_p
Climbing Up
Any faller worth his salt can lay the little stuff on the ground in a hurry, but lives for the pumpkins.![]()
cripple a whole bunch up and hit em' with a driver.
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Any faller worth his salt can lay the little stuff on the ground in a hurry, but lives for the pumpkins.![]()
cripple a whole bunch up and hit em' with a driver.![]()
I guess I was understanding "stump shot" as being: any part of the stump that "backs-up" any part of the log during the fall. (Something tells me that right now you're thinking, "I've already responded to this question about a hundred and fifty times.")
It seems to me that a one inch gap knocked out of a Humboldt with an axe, (even with a perfectly level back cut) functions almost exactly the same as a one inch higher back-cut on the stump of a conventional. Then, once the log has tipped an appreciable amount, the Humboldt begins to become "stump shot" as defined above. Add to this the fact that we might still choose to raise the back cut, and of course, the advantage becomes even greater.
As to your "ramp" effect incurred when the falling log meets an obstruction (always another tree unless we are silly enough to fall a tree into a granite cliff): is not the "ramp" sawed into the log (conventional) far more detrimental from a safety perspective, than the "ramp" sawed into the stump? Has anyone ever seen an obstructed log shoot back over a Humboldt stump? (High ground doesn't count.) This seems to me far more likely to occur in a conventional setup than a Humboldt. (Bear in mind that we may equally decide to raise the back cut with either setup.)
I've already learned a lot, and really appreciate your threads, so, if you're more sick of the age-old (and never settled!) Humboldt/conventional argument than you are with the Flu, please don't bother. I'm an arborist/wanna-be commercial faller who, for some odd reason, has always been deeply curious about the cuts people use to drop trees and why, so, anything that you'd have to add would be much appreciated.
Nice to read posts like this and not have someone butt-hurt over a disagreement. You guys managed to represent the exact reason why the treehouse is far superior than the other sites. Thanks.
As to the "success" your foreman generally enjoys...sounds like he's good at reading the head lean and gunning the tree to that lay. Heck, any beaver can get a tree to fall to the head lean. Something tells me he's probably not so good with taking the tree where it doesn't want to go.