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The site is at D's preschool. This is a non-profit cooperative preschool that's 42 years old. Way back then, was waaay out in the country. With modern road improvements, 15 minutes to town. There is one paid teacher, and the rest of the work is done by parents, in the class room, and outside on the grounds, fundraising, parent-education requirements as part of the community college system, etc, etc. Currently, ~25 families, kids aged 18 months to 5 years old.
Back story: The school was struck by lightning last year, 1.5 hours after school let out. The drywall was blown off the walls. At first it was thought that copper thieves broke in and were starting to gut the walls. The copper wiring was vaporized, basically. It would have been most certainly physically dangerous to the kids, and I'd say most certainly traumatic, had it happened during class. A tree on the school would be similar. A tree through the school...
There is a root disease pocket (Phellinus weirii/ Phellinus sulphurescens http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/nr/wildlife/decaid/IandDSpecies/Laminated root rot.html)
affecting a predominantly doug-fir stand (average 26" x 100'+) with two buildings as stationary targets, one being the preschool (occupied about 40% of the time, and the other is a work hop of the adjacent homeowner, Greg. Greg's doug-fir's are tall enough, and upwind of the preschool/ parking lot/ sole access-easement road.
I believe the rest of the Doug-fir that threaten the preschool building, parking lot, nature trail, and playground are preschool property.
This is a windy area, no joke. I think that its from funneling between the Olympic Mountains, and Capital Forest/ Capital peak.
I've knocked down at least two tall firs myself, and know that a number of the adjacent stumps were from trees I'd lost the bid on (all pre-Dahlia being enrolled). There is one small standing dead (low risk) and a number exhibiting classic Laminated Root Rot symptoms, at present. We haven't sampled root tissue for confirmation, but it is what it is. Amy deals with this all the time, on the site analysis part. We tried to go together last week, but too windy.
One approach is to keep knocking down the worst of the trees over time (more proactively than in the past), leave them in a heap, and cut out the trails. Enough windthrown root wads in the area makes me think that is a bit of ostrich in the sand about it.
At the other end is a small logging show. Either with the help of a commercial logger, or by me. Or both.
Might be too small to get a logger to do it with a skidder. I was wondering about renting a machine, like an excavator to move logs to the self-loader in the parking lot. Some might be export quality, but that means 41' logs, which suggests to me that it will require moonscaping the place, which is not desirable. There is a healthy forest understory to bounce back in its place. A logging job would probably happen in June, after school is out for the summer. Ground will be drier. Its a pretty flat site with good openings, due to windfall, in part.
Thoughts on dealing with the disease?
Thoughts on a machine for moving logs?
Thoughts on all the brush? I could move my chipper out to the branches with the mini (I think) and chip, but seems like a lot of hard work. I can hire in a tractor with a bigger grapple, a 30 yard end dump at $350 per load, use my mini with grapple to forward, etc.
Thoughts on understory rebound over the summer before the kids return (again, emotional impact if it looks like a moonscape at their beloved preschool.
Pics to come.https://www.google.com/maps/place/6...2!3m1!1s0x54919ef611a28ad7:0x1e68b3e72cf1b131
The school is set back off the road past the house just north of 41st av, 600' back off 41st (I just saw that on Google maps, you can right click and use a measuring tool).
Back story: The school was struck by lightning last year, 1.5 hours after school let out. The drywall was blown off the walls. At first it was thought that copper thieves broke in and were starting to gut the walls. The copper wiring was vaporized, basically. It would have been most certainly physically dangerous to the kids, and I'd say most certainly traumatic, had it happened during class. A tree on the school would be similar. A tree through the school...
There is a root disease pocket (Phellinus weirii/ Phellinus sulphurescens http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/nr/wildlife/decaid/IandDSpecies/Laminated root rot.html)
affecting a predominantly doug-fir stand (average 26" x 100'+) with two buildings as stationary targets, one being the preschool (occupied about 40% of the time, and the other is a work hop of the adjacent homeowner, Greg. Greg's doug-fir's are tall enough, and upwind of the preschool/ parking lot/ sole access-easement road.
I believe the rest of the Doug-fir that threaten the preschool building, parking lot, nature trail, and playground are preschool property.
This is a windy area, no joke. I think that its from funneling between the Olympic Mountains, and Capital Forest/ Capital peak.
I've knocked down at least two tall firs myself, and know that a number of the adjacent stumps were from trees I'd lost the bid on (all pre-Dahlia being enrolled). There is one small standing dead (low risk) and a number exhibiting classic Laminated Root Rot symptoms, at present. We haven't sampled root tissue for confirmation, but it is what it is. Amy deals with this all the time, on the site analysis part. We tried to go together last week, but too windy.
One approach is to keep knocking down the worst of the trees over time (more proactively than in the past), leave them in a heap, and cut out the trails. Enough windthrown root wads in the area makes me think that is a bit of ostrich in the sand about it.
At the other end is a small logging show. Either with the help of a commercial logger, or by me. Or both.
Might be too small to get a logger to do it with a skidder. I was wondering about renting a machine, like an excavator to move logs to the self-loader in the parking lot. Some might be export quality, but that means 41' logs, which suggests to me that it will require moonscaping the place, which is not desirable. There is a healthy forest understory to bounce back in its place. A logging job would probably happen in June, after school is out for the summer. Ground will be drier. Its a pretty flat site with good openings, due to windfall, in part.
Thoughts on dealing with the disease?
Thoughts on a machine for moving logs?
Thoughts on all the brush? I could move my chipper out to the branches with the mini (I think) and chip, but seems like a lot of hard work. I can hire in a tractor with a bigger grapple, a 30 yard end dump at $350 per load, use my mini with grapple to forward, etc.
Thoughts on understory rebound over the summer before the kids return (again, emotional impact if it looks like a moonscape at their beloved preschool.
Pics to come.https://www.google.com/maps/place/6...2!3m1!1s0x54919ef611a28ad7:0x1e68b3e72cf1b131
The school is set back off the road past the house just north of 41st av, 600' back off 41st (I just saw that on Google maps, you can right click and use a measuring tool).