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Yes Magnus, it's taking some time, but Shinny is slowly getting sucked up into the Echo vortex, soon to be no more!

They just became that way in the last couple of years. Shinny was worlds ahead of Echo.

Not that old of news, my point was the saws you are looking at might not have been "tainted" yet, but I assure you the new ones will have been!

I used to work on them. They are built as well as any Swiss watch, probably why I didn't work on many! They are tanks, just a little heavy for their sizes. But it's all about to go to Hell with the buyout:http://poweretblog.com/2009/03/echo-shindaiwa-merging-operations/