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We have the BMPs as well as the ANSI standards and we are finding that you can make just about any system fit within them if you want. Many of their terms a vague. I wish they would get more specific, but I guess I understand why they don't.

If there is a defect present you are supposed to use static systems. For a while that meet steel cables only. Now with some hybrid systems maybe you could use something else.

We use those when we can. The manufacturers recommend not using them when there is a defect present. Totally preventative tree support is a tough sell these days.

My bad.:beer:

That's not 3 strand wire, what you are seeing is the tree grip. We use EHS cable which is not splicable.

Thanks for the input. I guess I kind of figured that out. Now I am trying to figure out what changes need to be made.

It is 1/4ehs cable. Again, I could be wrong but I think the eye is 1500lbs wll not tensile. Either way we will not be using them any more. There have been several times over the years that we have checked our practices against the BMPs and we have always been working within those suggestions. I...

I am at home right now with the boys so I dont know what the rating on the eyes is, but I thought the WWL was closer to 1500 lbs. I could be wrong. Here are a couple of pics from the tree. Both eyes should be completely closed.

You know, we have always used the eyes from hardware stores and we have never once had a problem. I aleays kind of wondered about them, but that was the way I was taught and it always worked. Now I will be making the change. I have looked into the Rigguy anod similar types of tree support...

We recently had a couple of wind storms go through our area. One had 70-80mph wind and the other had 50mph gusts. I got a call from a customer who we had installed a cable in a Norway Maple about 2 months ago. He just wanted me to check it out to make sure it was OK. He hadn't noticed any...