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S'all good but ftr how old are ya? I think the fitness they possess is from daily, non desk-bound use of the human body, in a non-industrial setting. The idea of a gym would probably confuse them :rockhard:

Glad you liked it. Yes I thought is was interesting how he examined rock climbing as an outgrowth of tree climbing. And I also liked the discussion of risk and danger involved- basically the indigenous climbers he was with were so fit, experienced, and skilled that the risk factor was thus...

Re the knee, have you checked out Knees over Toes guy on IG and YT? He's for real. Simple, safe approach that is effective. My left knee has been a mess since mid twenties, it isn't perfect now but so much better after following Ben. He's different.

https://www.georgebrill.co.uk/post/back-to-the-trees-of-human-tree-climbing-forgotten-potential-and-skewed-evolutionary-perspective