Rear rated saddle connection

[Treeaddict]

Was working a tree today out on a leader where the climb line was to my back the whole time. I got the idea afterwards that maybe I could have used the rear ring rather than my bridge. Lanyard on lower d’s and climb line in the back. Does that make sense? I’ve never seen it done so figured it would be good to ask.

 

[Altissimus]

I never do that

 

[Treeaddict]

Why?

 

[lxskllr]

That's used in very controlled industrial settings. If you end up dangling from the back, it'll be hard to recover.

 

[flushcut]

If it’s on your back you are working blind so to speak. Being able to turn and twist is how the bridge came to exist. Try doing the same thing in a saddle without a bridge. You will find it very limiting.

 

[CurSedVoyce]

Generally, a rear attachment point is fall arrest. Use in bucket, not in tree, if it is rated for such

 

[Treeaddict]

All of that makes sense. It seemed like it would clean up my front but I suppose the cost would be too great if I came off my perches.

 

[CurSedVoyce]

Maybe cleaning up your front means to down size your front. Keep it simple and light. Minimal kit actually streamlines the climber.
Example, in oaks, it is often faster to climb up and prune the limbs by handsaw up close and personal than it would be to be 10 feet away with a pole saw.
Once upon a time, I had a pulley on my bridge, made for multiple connection points. A bridge is a multiple connection point. You can connect into the sliding ring on the bridge, or to the bridge itself. The ring just orientates the ascender better for me. And planning the work so you know what to take with you.

 

[Treeaddict]

Ahh, the KISS principal. Good wisdom indeed. I had a swivel and ring on the bridge at first. Swivel got in the way so off it went. I consider myself a minimalist when it comes to stuff on the saddle. It’s so frustrating when all that extra stuff gets caught up on everything it comes in contact with😠

 

[Tree09]

No rope discipline other than movie ninjas uses the back as an attachment point.

 

[Altissimus]

Ariel Rescue ...

 

[lxskllr]

 

[Treeaddict]

Gotta at least see what it feels like even if not used in a climb. Maybe tie into it tomorrow standing on a bucket and kick the bucket out with someone there to push the Akimbo down if I can’t reach it 🤣

 

[Treeaddict]

So that’s what Ariel rescue is?! Gotta say I don’t think I’ll ever need to use it. The odds of me having to pull a fictitious character off the bottom of the sea floor are,what, like 100,000 to 1 🤪🤣

 

[lxskllr]

Gotta be prepared!

 

[CurSedVoyce]

Ariel Rescue ...

And that...

 

[Tree09]

Which of course isn't a daily thing. I'm talking about going ok, I'm gonna put the device that keeps me from falling to my death on my back where i can't even scratch.

 

[Treeaddict]

Ninjas can reach it though!🤣

You’re right though. In movies they always repel with a back connection 🤣

 

[Bermy]

It's rappel, unless there is some super ninja opposite force thing going on and they repel each other so they don't crash together on the way down...that would be totally repellent.

 

[lumberjack]

No rope discipline other than movie ninjas uses the back as an attachment point.

Rap jumping is a thing.

 

[SeanKroll]

Aussie- style rappelling

 

[Tree09]

Also not a standard work procedure. Terrible idea trying to climb like that, sorry.

 

[Jonny]

I’m too set in my ways to change to it now, but I’ve heard of folks really digging that rear ring to attach a chainsaw lanyard. More friendly for the ambidextrous folks.

 

[Bermy]

SOP rear centre connection for the chainsaw lanyard, hitched up short on the caritool on the side

 

[Treeaddict]

Thanks for the correction Fiona! My English teaching mother would be appalled 😱🤣