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TreeHouser
I have to laugh at some of the comments over there. " is David Driver compensated" " was xman ask before hand" really!!!
ABR Rigging Thimbles
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I have to laugh at some of the comments over there. " is David Driver compensated" " was xman ask before hand" really!!!
flushcut
TreeHouser
Personally rings of any manufacture just don't fit into my day to day. Midline attachable is key IMO.
RopeArmour
TreeHouser
The plain ali will give more friction. Better for lowering not for lifting. I bent a ring a bit awhile ago in a2:1 sytem holding two leads of a large split elm after felling said elm. X rings are tough.
Grendel
TreeHouser
First splice ever! Locking brummel lock-stitched, whipped, and taped (no heat shrink)
It's not perfect, but I'm happy with it.
ETA: It still needs some working, I'll get all the high spots ironed out.
It's not perfect, but I'm happy with it.
ETA: It still needs some working, I'll get all the high spots ironed out.
candoarms
TreeHouser
Grendel,
Not a bad job on the splice, but I'm wondering about the rings. Are they both the same size?
Joel
Not a bad job on the splice, but I'm wondering about the rings. Are they both the same size?
Joel
Grendel
TreeHouser
Thanks. Yeah, this isn't a ground recoverable type. . .
candoarms
TreeHouser
Grendel,
It's still a very useful tool, even if it can't be remotely installed and retrieved.
I use mine as a single-ended redirect by girth hitching a loop runner to one ring. The Rig and Ring can then be used as a redirect, so long as the angle of the rigging rope isn't too high, as the bend radius on a single ring would be too much for most of our larger rigging ropes. It can also be used as a 2:1 mechanical advantage for a tag line, or control line.
Have a great day.
Joel
It's still a very useful tool, even if it can't be remotely installed and retrieved.
I use mine as a single-ended redirect by girth hitching a loop runner to one ring. The Rig and Ring can then be used as a redirect, so long as the angle of the rigging rope isn't too high, as the bend radius on a single ring would be too much for most of our larger rigging ropes. It can also be used as a 2:1 mechanical advantage for a tag line, or control line.
Have a great day.
Joel
Raj
TreeHouser
Could always put a small clevis or metal loop of some sort on a prusik to add a remote recovery option.
Grendel
TreeHouser
This site is the best, thanks guys. I'd like to make a couple more of these, possibly try a double. . . But I mean really, how many rigging thimbles does one guy need? 
Raj
TreeHouser
I quoted a take down of a somewhat large spreading sugar maple, the HO suggested there's plenty of room to drop limbs..... but I see a pool, neighbour's house, fence, playset, patio, flowerbed, gates and a shed..... HO thinks it would take only 4 hours, I insisted it would be a 12 hour job.... I got the bid. I have 2 rigging rings slings, but I'm thinking I can shave off some effort goin' up and down and out to reset rigging points by having may be another 2 (or more) sets.... I do have lots of tenex layin'round doing nothing.
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Nick from Ohio
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Luke doesnt have an acct but here are his thoughts:
"Here's my take on the product launch. Any questions just let me know!
Why make your own ring?
We created our own rings because my splicers pointed out a couple safety and functional improvements that could be made over the Antal-made rings. Given the trust that tree climbers put in us... it is obviously our responsibility to put out the best product we can.
Aren't you ripping the X-Man off?
David didn't invent the low friction ring. He was the first person to take an awesome product (the Antal Low Friction Ring) and apply it to tree care. He should be honored and respected for this. Once our ring was ready for market, we offered David a few thousand dollars per year as an annual licensing fee. (We were not obligated to do this, but I felt strongly that it was the right thing to do). He declined our offer. We doubled our offer. David declined again. No drama, just two people trying to live up to their own principles.
I respect David a ton and we get along really well. For my part, we will continue to offer the X-Rings on our website and any future products that Xtreme Arborist comes out with.
Luke
luke@treestuff.com"
"Here's my take on the product launch. Any questions just let me know!
Why make your own ring?
We created our own rings because my splicers pointed out a couple safety and functional improvements that could be made over the Antal-made rings. Given the trust that tree climbers put in us... it is obviously our responsibility to put out the best product we can.
Aren't you ripping the X-Man off?
David didn't invent the low friction ring. He was the first person to take an awesome product (the Antal Low Friction Ring) and apply it to tree care. He should be honored and respected for this. Once our ring was ready for market, we offered David a few thousand dollars per year as an annual licensing fee. (We were not obligated to do this, but I felt strongly that it was the right thing to do). He declined our offer. We doubled our offer. David declined again. No drama, just two people trying to live up to their own principles.
I respect David a ton and we get along really well. For my part, we will continue to offer the X-Rings on our website and any future products that Xtreme Arborist comes out with.
Luke
luke@treestuff.com"
mistahbenn
Treehouser
Luke is a true gent and scholar. He and Treestuff have my ultimate love and respect. Always 
Raj
TreeHouser
Great company, I wish the exchange rate was better at this point, need a couple rings!
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TreeHouser
TreeStuff
Bump.
I have only one piece of spliced gear, a large sling for a block, it is real nice but I am mostly a knot guy fwiw. Of course the ABR rings are at their best when spliced into the rope, but has anyone here used them tied into the line rather than spliced?
I have only one piece of spliced gear, a large sling for a block, it is real nice but I am mostly a knot guy fwiw. Of course the ABR rings are at their best when spliced into the rope, but has anyone here used them tied into the line rather than spliced?
NickfromWI
King of Splices
It would work better than NOT having a splice- but get some hollow braid. Bet you can splice a legit one one your first try.
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nick
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nick
Like tenex? Is it as simple as twisting an opening in the braid and then working the end back into the rope to make an eye, maybe using a fid or pliers or a small string to pull it thru? I know next to nothing about splicing
Reddog
TreeHouser
Like tenex? Is it as simple as twisting an opening in the braid and then working the end back into the rope to make an eye, maybe using a fid or pliers or a small string to pull it thru? I know next to nothing about splicing
Yes
And Yes.
Nick and Nick splicing thread
https://www.masterblasterhome.com/showthread.php?16667-Splicing-X-Rings
SouthSoundTree-
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How is Tenex for remote setting and retrieval, if someone is copying the Rig and Ring?
Mine just came and IIRC its dynasorb.
Check for a manufacturer's splicing video. Wesppur/ Niceguydave has videos. Maybe Nick, too.
Mine just came and IIRC its dynasorb.
Check for a manufacturer's splicing video. Wesppur/ Niceguydave has videos. Maybe Nick, too.
Reddog
TreeHouser
Put chafe sleeve over it.
NickfromWI
King of Splices
I think I should make a video about this. Hmmm....
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nick
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