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Maybe some type of apple?

Went to look at this guy today. Owner was thinking some type of cottonwood. I some what agreed By looking at the bark. Leaves don?t quite resemble what I?m used to seeing tho. Kinda lost on it. Only cottonwoods I?ve ever seen were huge and 150 ft tall

Yea didn't really match up to how a sourwood typically looks. Doesn't help that it's been topped and hacked up in the past

Confirmed the tree was a sourwood "Oxydendrum arboreum". Homeowner found some leaves and remains of flowers in a flowerbed from last year. His x brother in law planted the tree years ago. I guess he spoke with him and he called it a Lilly valley tree. I believe that is another common name for...

That would be nice. Going from looking at them in the woods to a yard is a big difference to me. Their overall structure seems so much different. Lack of leaves to go by on this one threw me off.

Only thing on black gum I always thought the limbs would come off the stems at nearly a 90degree angle?

Blackgum was my second guess I think it is one of the two.

Thanks. Found out a little more on my mystery tree. Simple, narrow slightly toothed leaves. Green in summer and red in the fall. No berries. Here is a piece from one of the branches. I wish I could find a leaf from it. It's driving me crazy. I'm guessing maybe sourwood?

I agree. I've just been busy. Bought a trailer, chopped up a trailer, then rebuilt it lol. Finally said to heck with hunting a mentor to learn the trade under. Done 5-6 removals. Turned down at least that many. Taking it slow and staying away from what I'm not comfortable with or equipped...

lol I suppose Butch.

Haven't been on here in what seems like forever. Any ideas on what this tree is. It stumped me as well as a 40 year timber buyer and my father as well didn't think to take any pics of the buds or twigs. Beautiful red autumn leaves is about all the info I've gotten from home owner. And...