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Other thing. If the ground guy catches the piece, he has an advantage. The weight of the tail of the line adds to the friction. Once the tip touches the ground, climber takes over. NP.

Yeah. This thread sorry.

There is s thread on that devise Jaime made. Some of us got to play with it. Was supposed to be somewhat adjustable. But that may have changed at Rock exotica or August did not get the memo.

How did you like it? I set it up where you could get it around some decent stem or limb

One of them still have that loopie on it? Or did you guys switch it out?

Lower back seems so easy to bugger. Once I messed it up as a kid, it just goes out easier. I feel for you guys.

In stead of Yale or?. The Samson line is "Stable Braid" that i see in the video pic. I found the 1/2 Samson great so long as it is not all fuzzy from use. New, it was beautiful in function with the devise. I would thing that the Elderid line might be too abrasive for the piece to run proper. But...