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    So, I am pretty bad at filing chain. I somehow seem to just make dull chain duller, so its something I always let other people do. Duane has a pair of the Pferd CS filing guides and I have to say that I like them alot.

    I initially shied away cause it seemed silly but he convinced me to try them. Since I couldnt do much worse I figured what the heck why not. I actually file really sharp chain now. The guides take down the rakers and the cutter teeth at the same time and in theory keep the proportion between them uniform.

    It may not be for everyone but its definitely for me!

    http://www.forestapps.com/articles/P...tsFirewood.htm

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    Hey - if it works for you, so much the better! Nothing wrong with using a guide.

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    Wow, a double shot filer! I would never think to use something like that, but if it works for you, right on!
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    It looks so corny, but it works really well!
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    I don't think I'd want to take the rakers down EVERY time I filed. I like doing that every other, maybe every third time.

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    Filing saw chain is an art. No guides or years of experience is going to help you until you figure it out on your own.

    I hand filed saw chain for 12 years before I figured it out. And only after that did my chains start cutting the way I only dreamed of.

    I hand filed for 10 more years and then bought a chain grinder. And when I bought the grinder I had to learn all over again.

    there are so many fine details with both methods that it is impossible to summarize. It just takes lots of practice, but with either method once you figure it out your chains will cut wood like it were butter.

    I worked with so many tree guys and timber fallers through the years and not one of them could explain how exactly to sharpen a chain that I could fully understand and emulate.

    It is easy to show in fine detail what a good sharp chain looks like. But attaining it in the field takes practice, practice and practice.

    Patience be with all you young ones.

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    I would be a pretty lucky guy to be as good as you at sharpening chain! Thats something to aim for I guess.

    Butch, I dont think they file the rakers everytime indiscriminately, only if they protrude past where the guide says they are supposed to be in relation to the cutter.
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    I have helped a few folks on their way to learn to file chain. Some get better. I find that the ones that have a problem advancing, aren't able to feel or see the edge to know what sharp is.
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    I just tell em to keep the same angles on both side and to lift up on the stroke. Don't push down!

    I also like to count the strokes, but that's just a guideline.

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    You hit the nail on the head, Jay. And I was one for a long time. 12 years I told you. I just went through the motions of filing without really knowing what I was doing.

    I believe that today young'uns can learn earlier because of all the great info that is being passed over the internet.

    with all trade tricks being passed on today it has to be the truth.

    Man in the old days real good info was so damn hard to come by. Basically you had to learn on your own. Sadly the old timers I knew didn't have all the smarts to fully explain and pass on what they knew. and a lot of them had the attitude that you should learn on your own anyway.

    Sad excuse today for one in a management position.

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